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Old 09-30-2014, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MP15TDriver
I was surprised that they didn't bump the 3.5L Ecoboost, too.

I was especially surprised they didn't at least list it as the same HP and torque of the 3.5L Ecoboost that is available in the 2015 Lincoln Navigator. The Navigator lists the 3.5EB at 380HP and 460 ft-lb. (http://www.lincoln.com/suvs/navigator/)

Shouldn't the 3.5EB in the F-150 at least be equivalent to the Navigator?
Why are you so surprised? You do realize that the Nav has a history of, at some point, having an upgraded engine over all the rest of the Ford SUV and truck line. It hasn't been consistent but they have done it in the past. It makes perfect sense. It's their "premium " line and it needs to compete with other high end vehicles in its class. It HAS to have some exclusivity and some sizzle. It's kind of a sinking ship of late and they need a revival.
If you want that engine so bad, go get a Nav or get those numbers with the help of the aftermarket.....it'll be cheaper and you can even surpass them.
You'll have yourself quite the rice burner.
Old 09-30-2014, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Daytoman
Seeing the power bump in the 5.0 redeems Ford a little bit in my eyes. I'll admit.... This is a positive gesture aimed towards the real truck guys out there. (Sorry but if you drive an EB you're not a real truck guy so don't even try to argue, you will be dismissed and ignored) However, it's not enough imo. Nonetheless, the weight loss will make it feel like more of a power bump. I still look forward to test driving one.
I want to be a real truck guy too.
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Originally Posted by Daytoman
Seeing the power bump in the 5.0 redeems Ford a little bit in my eyes. I'll admit.... This is a positive gesture aimed towards the real truck guys out there. (Sorry but if you drive an EB you're not a real truck guy so don't even try to argue, you will be dismissed and ignored) However, it's not enough imo. Nonetheless, the weight loss will make it feel like more of a power bump. I still look forward to test driving one.
I think at this point, ford is squeezing every ounce of HP and TQ that they can safely get out of these engines for a truck platform. With the 5.0, your not going to get much better numbers out of it unless you start turbocharging or supercharging. You're right too in the fact that 700 lbs lighter should make it feel quite a bit faster.

I'm really shocked that they let the 6.2L go. All of the other truck brands offer a large displacement V8 and I've heard the new GM 6.2L is a screamer. They could of at least provided the 6.2L on a custom order basis. That's just my opinion.
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That 2.7 was impressive.
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Originally Posted by nihilus
Hooked on Phonics - It says REGULAR octane. This did nor require a lot of reading. I think the EB corner is a bit jealous of the 5.0's towing and power gains.
Take it easy Billy BA. It says regular octane for the 2.7L also, but it DOES NOT make the 325 on 87. I'm just trying to find out if Ford made this power off 93 octane for the 5.0L. Do you really think I give 2 ******s about EB vs. V8 ? All their truck engines use 87, but do they make the advertised power on it, NO. On their website it doesn't have (*) by either engine , but it does say this under "additional disclosures" in the engine section... "68. Achieved with premium fuel". They are not singling out one particular engine, just a general statement.

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The ONLY Mustang in 2014 that requires premium fuel is the GT500. All others are rated for 87. You won't get the advertised power, but it'll run just fine. That's what I'm afraid about the new F150 5.0 ratings. It makes better power except... you have to buy expensive fuel that only half of America can get. My BS flag is waving at Ford for re-rating all their engines off 93 octane .
Since these numbers are for the 2015, the 2015 Mustang 5.0 requires premium gas.
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Originally Posted by bcb97
Disapointed in the 5.0, but it looks like the 2.7 is going to be a great engine for this truck.
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Originally Posted by Daytoman
Seeing the power bump in the 5.0 redeems Ford a little bit in my eyes. I'll admit.... This is a positive gesture aimed towards the real truck guys out there. (Sorry but if you drive an EB you're not a real truck guy so don't even try to argue, you will be dismissed and ignored) However, it's not enough imo. Nonetheless, the weight loss will make it feel like more of a power bump. I still look forward to test driving one.
Ford certainly won't ignore me, but they seem to be ignoring you.
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Definitely not a fan of The Fast Lane truck reviewers but they seem to be out there doing a ton of reviews. They are admittedly big Dodge Hemi fans so they do seem biased. The 2.7 looked good in that review. One thing I noticed is that the 3.5liter was in the heavy King Ranch and the 2.7 in some version of XLT which would be significantly lighter again.

I'm not a Dodge fan but something seemed off on the RAM, like a hesitation about 1 second in to the run, the reviewer made a comment about the transmission. Maybe the fancy 8 speed was acting up?? Little surprised that the Hemi times were so slow on such a short strip.


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