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Old 09-29-2014, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pb65stang
I'm actually wondering if it's enough to keep me at the 3.31 gears for maximum fuel economy, without being a total dog. Still leaning 3.55 though, because I'm buying the truck in anticipation of someday towing a boat with it. 3.73 will definitely be fun!
When I did the math, I believe there was ~90 RPM difference at 65 MPH between the 3.31 & 3.55. The 3.73 wasn't available on the 4X2 for me.

To put the performance of the 5.0 in perspective, if this engine was produced in the muscle car era, it would be rated at ~460 horsepower.

In a truck.

A truck that gets 20+ MPG on the road.
Old 09-29-2014, 12:37 PM
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Awesome news on the 5.0L. Now, just need MPG ratings across the board and some real world reviews.
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I am surprised they didnt bump the eco. We know it is not at it's ceiling with the results some of the tuners are getting. I am guessing they bumped the 5.0 so much to help consumers accept the fact we only have 1 V8 option. I know if my truck was 700lbs lighter and had this hp bump, it would be unbelievable fun. I was amazed how quick it was when I test drove it compared to the 5.4's I had. Even now with 34" tires it is still quick enough to satisfy me. The 3.5 ECO is stable in the market as a true towing engine. Maybe Ford is waiting to bump it up until after the 2.7 gets established and they monitor the take-rate.
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Originally Posted by countrysquire
When I did the math, I believe there was ~90 RPM difference at 65 MPH between the 3.31 & 3.55. The 3.73 wasn't available on the 4X2 for me.

To put the performance of the 5.0 in perspective, if this engine was produced in the muscle car era, it would be rated at ~460 horsepower.

In a truck.

A truck that gets 20+ MPG on the road.
A quick look at an RPM calculator gave me about 113 RPM @ 65, and 130 RPM @ 75. So your math is pretty good! Although for MPG, there's probably a decent difference between cruising at 1800 RPM or 1930 RPM (75 mph numbers). Question will be the towing capacity/payload difference, if much at all.
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I was surprised that they didn't bump the 3.5L Ecoboost, too.

I was especially surprised they didn't at least list it as the same HP and torque of the 3.5L Ecoboost that is available in the 2015 Lincoln Navigator. The Navigator lists the 3.5EB at 380HP and 460 ft-lb. (http://www.lincoln.com/suvs/navigator/)

Shouldn't the 3.5EB in the F-150 at least be equivalent to the Navigator?
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I wonder if the 5.0's numbers are on 93 octane like they've been rating all their engines lately. The 3.5EB numbers (365-420) are on 87 octane. It'll probably make Lincoln power (380-460) on 93 octane.
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Old 09-29-2014, 01:00 PM
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Good point, Hydro, on the octane used for testing. Thanks.
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The 2.7 is the star of the show for 2015. The 3.5l will get a bump in a year or two. The 5.0l was bumped because it has to impress those who are looking at V8 trucks from the competition and only want a V8.

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Old 09-29-2014, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by my67falcon
The 2.7 is the star of the show core 2015. The 3.5l will get a bump in a years or two. The 5.0l was bumped because it has to impress those who are looking at V8 trucks from the competition and only want a V8.

Imho
This. And as someone else said, without the 6.2 available and the desire to keep pushing the 5.0's performance for the Mustang, it seems like a no brainier. And, you can't just do everything every release year. Two new motors, plus increased output on a third seems like a lot of design work for even Ford. Besides, it gives them something to do in a mid year refresh.

I'm surprised that the EcoBoost has the highest tow rating, but the second highest payload. From everything I've seen with the current gen, It's pretty hard to reach the first, without needing the second.
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Originally Posted by blackknight87
Nice. The 5.0 got a NICE bump. I think back in 2011 it was 360?

Disappointed to see that the 3.5L Eco didn't change
Yea... Its currently 360/380. Woo hoooo!

I would get it with 3.73 for sure.

I have the 3.55 now with 33's and there's a noticeable difference.

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