how much weight savings could there be?
#1
Senior Member
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how much weight savings could there be?
If ford used the most expensive materials available(composites, etc) and used the same design as the 2015 f-150 how much weight could be saved. Without losing any capability, strength, or towing capacity.
Eg. Using an alternative strong material for the frame but saving more weight.
How much more in addition to the 700lbs?
Eg. Using an alternative strong material for the frame but saving more weight.
How much more in addition to the 700lbs?
#2
Georgia Tech
Well they did a concept fusion on purely weight loss and it cut a quarter of the weight out of it, so take 25% off the 2014 weight, say 5700lbs for a 4x4 crew cab like mine. Rough calculation makes that 1400lbs, so 4300lbs assuming the same use of composites and stuff they did with the fusion.
#3
Senior Member
This is just pure guesswork, but the current Audi Q7 weighs about 5300#, so this might translate. They are keeping the steel body and lightening the frame.
Just for info, I'm not defending the changes.
Just for info, I'm not defending the changes.
The 2016 Audi Q7 will be slightly shorter than the current model. Also, it will use a new MLB platform, where the acronym stands for Modularer Längsbaukasten. This is a German term which means “Modular Longitudinal Matrix”. The new platform is made out of aluminum and carbon fiber which will make the vehicle weigh more than 650 pounds less. This will significantly improve its fuel economy, as well as handling,
#4
Senior Member
If seriously interested in an answer to a very technical inquiry, try to locate (or download) a publication by CRC Press (copyright 2003) by authors Gay, Hoa, & Tsai entitled Composite Materials: Design and Applications. It's been awhile since I've perused it, but my recall of the automotive sections concluded that the max weight reduction using the latest composite materials & assembly techniques would approach ~ 52%. For a truck/trailer using a frame, I believe the number was ~ 38%. The numbers do not consider cost limitations and do not attempt to factor in e.g. crash worthiness. BTW, Ford was mentioned often as an early/ongoing source of data. In view of what we know now, that doesn't seem surprising.