Topic Sponsor
2015 - 2020 Ford F150 General discussion on the 13th generation Ford F150 truck.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

FORScan - software to enable/disable features in your truck

Old 05-23-2017, 08:53 AM
  #8671  
Senior Member

 
carrierj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Lafayette, LA
Posts: 2,158
Received 583 Likes on 444 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by seadragon
I've mentioned this a couple of times now, but nobody acknowledges it...



The spreadsheet indicates that the value for low beams is 20. But this is not what my truck is set to yet it uses low beams as DRL.
At 726-45-01, do you have xxxx 7Fxx xxxx, which would allow all DRL configurations? Or do you have 03 or something else at that location?
Old 05-23-2017, 08:56 AM
  #8672  
Size Matters
 
tmcolegr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 5,958
Received 3,359 Likes on 1,698 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by rking620
Correct
Thank you for taking the time to investigate. This would draw one to conclude the power fold mirror conversion on an XLT without BLIS is causing these DTCs in the door modules.


I sure would like for someone that has done the power fold mirror conversion on an XLT that has BLIS to chime in and let us know if these DTCs are present. I am of the opinion they won't be present as something is different on XLT trucks with BLIS.
Old 05-23-2017, 09:14 AM
  #8673  
Tommy

iTrader: (3)
 
Firerunner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Greenville, North Carolina
Posts: 6,022
Received 4,264 Likes on 2,183 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by tmcolegr
Thank you for taking the time to investigate. This would draw one to conclude the power fold mirror conversion on an XLT without BLIS is causing these DTCs in the door modules.


I sure would like for someone that has done the power fold mirror conversion on an XLT that has BLIS to chime in and let us know if these DTCs are present. I am of the opinion they won't be present as something is different on XLT trucks with BLIS.
I will have a lot of ifs in this post but here goes..... the mirrors I bought are blis type and I've also got blis modules coming for the taillights. I have a VIN that I'm going to purchase the harness from a XLT blis equipped truck so IF this works and no one else tests for errors I MAY still be able to test this.....
Old 05-23-2017, 09:47 AM
  #8674  
The FORScan Guy

Thread Starter
 
Livnitup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: SoCal
Posts: 5,763
Received 4,902 Likes on 1,988 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by seadragon
I've mentioned this a couple of times now, but nobody acknowledges it...



The spreadsheet indicates that the value for low beams is 20. But this is not what my truck is set to yet it uses low beams as DRL.
My U.S. truck had 108E for 726-50-01 also for as-built. The wiring diagrams show C2280F (F-150) Pins 36 (Right) and 40 (Left) going to the headlights in trucks with stock LEDs. As was previously mentioned I verified these pins were in fact populated on C2280F on my truck.

I've pulled several XLT VINs that should have halogen and I see the as-built for them is 0280 for 726-50-01.

So I assume the 108E vs 0280 at 726-50-01 is an LED vs Halogen thing.
Old 05-23-2017, 10:07 AM
  #8675  
Senior Member
 
Grumpyf150xlt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Lake Lavon, Texas
Posts: 124
Received 31 Likes on 20 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Livnitup
I see a 2010 XLT for $64/day but it's a 1/2 hour drive from me so not doing that.
Sure miss SoCal, lol.
A 2010 wouldn't work. From what I've read they had GEM modules.
Old 05-23-2017, 10:25 AM
  #8676  
Senior Member
 
seadragon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,722
Received 404 Likes on 256 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by carrierj
At 726-45-01, do you have xxxx 7Fxx xxxx, which would allow all DRL configurations? Or do you have 03 or something else at that location?
I have 11 as a value there in as-built. The full line is:

726-45-01 0A00 1101 0190
Old 05-23-2017, 10:26 AM
  #8677  
Senior Member
 
seadragon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,722
Received 404 Likes on 256 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Livnitup
So I assume the 108E vs 0280 at 726-50-01 is an LED vs Halogen thing.
Ah, that is interesting. I see the spreadsheet has been updated with this differentiation now. Thanks!

Last edited by seadragon; 05-23-2017 at 10:31 AM.
Old 05-23-2017, 10:30 AM
  #8678  
Senior Member

 
carrierj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Lafayette, LA
Posts: 2,158
Received 583 Likes on 444 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by seadragon
I have 11 as a value there in as-built. The full line is:

726-45-01 0A00 1101 0190
I think that you have to have the 7F at 726-45-01 in order to allow the different options at 726-50-01.
The following users liked this post:
seadragon (05-23-2017)
Old 05-23-2017, 10:32 AM
  #8679  
Size Matters
 
tmcolegr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 5,958
Received 3,359 Likes on 1,698 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Firerunner
I will have a lot of ifs in this post but here goes..... the mirrors I bought are blis type and I've also got blis modules coming for the taillights. I have a VIN that I'm going to purchase the harness from a XLT blis equipped truck so IF this works and no one else tests for errors I MAY still be able to test this.....
You do realize XLT with BLIS door harnesses aren't populated with the wiring for power fold mirrors even though they have 22 pin mirror connectors.
Old 05-23-2017, 10:54 AM
  #8680  
The FORScan Guy

Thread Starter
 
Livnitup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: SoCal
Posts: 5,763
Received 4,902 Likes on 1,988 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by carrierj
I think that you have to have the 7F at 726-45-01 in order to allow the different options at 726-50-01.
Hopefully this explains why 726-45-01 xxxx 7Fxx xxxx allows all DRL choices at 726-50-01

726-50-01 108E Dedicated DRL Lights (LED Light Bars/Strips)
726-50-01 017F DRL disabled
726-50-01 0280 DRL - low beams
726-50-01 0482 DRL - front fog lamps
726-50-01 0886 DRL - front turn lamps
726-50-01 209E DRL - high beams
726-50-01 40BE DRL - Low Beams and Dedicated DRL

Hex addition of all the choices above: 10+01+02+04+08+20+40=7F

Example 1: A truck with LEDs would have an as-built value of 726-45-01 xxxx 11xx xxxx which would only allow values at 726-50-01 of Dedicated DRL Lights (10) or DRL disabled (01) = (Hex addition of 10 + 01 = 11)

Example 2: A truck with Halogens would have an as-built value of 726-45-01 xxxx 03xx xxxx which would only allow values at 726-50-01 of DRL disabled (01) or DRL low beams (02) = (Hex addition of 01 + 02 = 03)

I hope this adds a little clarity to the meaning of the value at 726-45-01 xxxx **xx xxxx

Edit: Credit for figuring this out goes to DanMc85 btw

Last edited by Livnitup; 05-23-2017 at 11:57 AM.
The following 5 users liked this post by Livnitup:
carrierj (05-23-2017), DanMc85 (05-24-2017), Firerunner (05-23-2017), lucas8888 (05-23-2017), seadragon (05-23-2017)

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: FORScan - software to enable/disable features in your truck



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:52 PM.