twotimer

Ok I just seen the Screw payload sticker. The truck has the EB and the max tow, Ford says I can tow up to 12,200 lbs with this setup. But here is the problem with that. The max payload of the truck including passengers is only 1600 lbs. The general rule of thumb with trailers call for the tongue weight to equal 10-15% of the total trailer weight.

Lets look at a 10k trailer for starters. Tongue weight of a 10,000 lbs trailer will add anywhere from 1000-1500 lbs of weight to the truck. Throw in one driver and you are near the max payload. Two people puts you over the limit. Tools, bags or any other cargo will put you way over the limit.

So what good is the max tow rating of 12,200 if the tongue weight alone puts you over the payload capacity? On a 12k trailer tongue weight alone would be 1200-1700 lbs. Basically you can't legally tow a 12k trailer with this truck, heck a 10k trailer is pushing your luck.

The reality is, the 12k tow rating is a farce when it comes to the Supercrew. Unless you plan on being the only person or thing in the truck and weight under 150

tanked_darren

It's not a farce it is fact bro.

iowabob

I can understand your questioning. I have a 2103, Super Cab with the 3.5L with the max trailer two package. Now you would think this would come with rear springs, reflecting that capability but, I had to add airbags to keep the 5th wheel level. The trailer has a GVWR of 9500#. The pickup easily pulls the trailer where ever but surprisingly, requires a lot of coal-I mean, "gas" to accomplish the job.

brulaz

It's a surprise to a lot of people that when towing, payload is almost always more important than tow capacity.

Still, there are guys that tow 12,200# of bricks on a flatbed at 10% tongue weight. At least the 2015 hitch receiver has been upgraded to 1220# with a WDH.

It's the people trying to pull fifth wheels with 25% pin weights that have issues. But Ford has an answer: it's called the HD Payload package. Check out the payloads on those trucks.

Feathermerchant

Why they make the HD payload package.
Anyway if you're towing a 10,000 trailer, I'd guess you would be able to get all your stuff in it.

hockeylover86

I don't think I would want 12k behind a 1/2 ton anyway, maybe its just me..

mvander

If your towing an RV type trailer you will almost always max the payload, receiver rating or the rawr before hitting the max tow rating. This is why I choose the HD payload with nearly 2600# per the sticker. Rides a little firm though.

ObD

Payload is the limiting factor on a F-series. Ford makes Superduty's for a reason.

twotimer

Agreed but they are the ones pushing this claim and pushing it hard. There is going to be a lot of overweight rigs out there I'm afraid.

It was mentioned in this thread that the max tongue weight the hitch can handle is 1220 lbs. Thats interesting because you are right at that number with a 10k trailer. With a 12200 lbs trailer your tongue weight needs to be exactly 10% and not a pound more. Scary stuff if you ask me

My trailer, loaded will come in at 9500, which gives me a little wiggle room but not much.

130428

dear g*d, there are 1,000's of threads here on this exact subject!

who cares if the max towing capacity only applies to a configuration that only represents 1% of the F150 sold, it's all about bragging rights in an advertising brochure vs the other brands, isn't it