Ford's Towing Claim doesn't add up ???
01-31-2015, 07:40 PM
#11
Platinum Ego Boostin
01-31-2015, 10:03 PM
#12
Senior Member
Its just the max rating for best case scenario, take it for what it is. You could tow something that has a low tongue weight like a large boat that weighs 12,200 lbs. on the trailer with a 10-11% tongue weight and a 220 pound Driver. Just because you cant tow a 12,200 pound tongue heavy travel trailer doesnt mean it doesnt deserve that rating.
01-31-2015, 10:43 PM
#13
Senior Member
Look at other forums and you will see far less able trucks pulling loads well above their ratings. Happens all the time. But when getting this heavy, it's obvious the manufactures aren't being honest. Also the new f150 is lighter and more apt to have a tail wagging dog effect... Be careful.
01-31-2015, 10:56 PM
#14
But the specs in the brochure do...and the commercials...and who else gives a ****. If you are going to be even close to maxing out a 150, buy a SD. As others have posted they build a bad *** .75 ton, 1 ton, etc and it even has an oil burner with engine braking. Front page news!
02-01-2015, 09:26 AM
#15
Senior Member
Look at other forums and you will see far less able trucks pulling loads well above their ratings. Happens all the time. But when getting this heavy, it's obvious the manufactures aren't being honest. Also the new f150 is lighter and more apt to have a tail wagging dog effect... Be careful.
My '11 is wider than my '99. Just wondering if they're using width to increase stability for the larger ratings. Widening would move the centre of gravity closer to the ground I would expect.
02-01-2015, 10:10 AM
#16
Senior Member
The tow ratings are per SAE.
As for a 12k trailer with a 1600lb payload, 12k at 12% with a 150lb driver is below payload (as long as you don't have more than 10lb of other stuff in/on the truck. at 10% you've got 400lb to play with.
Bottom line is that it can tow the rated load under the right circumstances...it just cannot do it under most circumstances.
As for a 12k trailer with a 1600lb payload, 12k at 12% with a 150lb driver is below payload (as long as you don't have more than 10lb of other stuff in/on the truck. at 10% you've got 400lb to play with.
Bottom line is that it can tow the rated load under the right circumstances...it just cannot do it under most circumstances.
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bignfast (02-01-2015)
02-01-2015, 05:24 PM
#17
Senior Member
02-01-2015, 07:45 PM
#18
Senior Member
In addition to the trailer's capacity weight, you must also consider "tongue weight." The weight of the trailer tongue that attaches to the towing vehicle should not be more than five to fifteen percent of the total weight of the rig. Adjusting the tongue weight by moving the balance point of the trailer makes the tow more stable. If the tongue weight is too low, the trailer will fishtail at high speed. You should shift weight forward to increase the tongue weight. If the tongue weight is too high, it will drag down the rear of the tow vehicle and make steering difficult.
The tongue weight should never exceed or go lower than about 9 to 15 percent of the gross trailer weight.
And the type and setup of the trailer controls its tendency to sway, does it not?
So it is possible to be close to your 12,000# tow rating on your trailer, and still be well within your GVWR with a tongue weight lower than 10%, while having a stable trailer.
Boats do it all the time. I pull my 7,500#+ boat with a 600# tongue weight regularly with no problem.
Tongue weight is best determined by trying it out before buying the trailer. The reason for the varying percentages in the quotes above is because there is no definitive standard.
