Ford Truck & SUV 1st quarter sales up
#51
Ford Truck Lover
I'm not basing it off of just this forum. I had IWE problems on my '06 (plus all the 5.4 woes), on my '18 the dash is warped, my rear leaf spring is clunking and my transmission is clunkier than I would have expected. I don't know if Ford is any better or worse than the others, either way the difference would be marginal. My point is that they all have glaring engineering and build quality issues. A lot of areas for improvement that you don't see in most other market segments, like midsize sedans. Truck buyers just aren't as picky I guess. It makes the Tundra a lot more appealing than it should be.
And yeah, rust was still an issue with Ram and GM into this decade here in the rust belt. Only time will tell if they have finally resolved that like everybody else did back in the '90s.
And yeah, rust was still an issue with Ram and GM into this decade here in the rust belt. Only time will tell if they have finally resolved that like everybody else did back in the '90s.
#52
Ford Truck Lover
Oh and I see dash warp is a huge issue to you (I had none in either my 2016 or my current 2019), but the dash in my 2001 Ram literally disintegrated. Nothing impacted it, just started cracking, and then piece of is started to crumble into the space below the dash. So yeah, the quality of Rams have traditionally been horrible compared to the F150. Again, F150 isn't perfect, and their are sporadic issues, but they don't get the repeat buyers they get because it is crap product.
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#53
Well, since it hasn't changed much in the past hundred years, they should have it all worked out by now! LOL
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#54
Senior Member
Oh and I see dash warp is a huge issue to you (I had none in either my 2016 or my current 2019), but the dash in my 2001 Ram literally disintegrated. Nothing impacted it, just started cracking, and then piece of is started to crumble into the space below the dash. So yeah, the quality of Rams have traditionally been horrible compared to the F150. Again, F150 isn't perfect, and their are sporadic issues, but they don't get the repeat buyers they get because it is crap product.
#55
Senior Member
I suspected this earlier. Ram sales evidently aren't as rosy as the media is making out. 1/3 of their sales are the old "Classic" version. They did a similar thing with the cheap Grand Caravan and premium Pacifica to prop up their minivan sales.
https://www.autonews.com/classicram
The new Ram is still a nice truck. But will this strategy work long term? Pacifica never sold like the T&C and sales are down quite a bit this year, despite being the best in class.
https://www.autonews.com/classicram
The new Ram is still a nice truck. But will this strategy work long term? Pacifica never sold like the T&C and sales are down quite a bit this year, despite being the best in class.