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Old 03-20-2018, 11:26 PM
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I have been waiting on a Tundra refresh and 3/4 ton model for years.
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Originally Posted by KYBuckeye
Don’t kid yourself. That’s still a pervasive attitude among the uninformed (which they’re are plenty). Most don’t care that they’re Silverado was made in Mexico...’cause it’s a Chevy.

I’m sure that has a greater impact on sales than meets the eye.
I always wonder about the "where the vehicle is built" point-of-view...buying a Toyota is okay because the truck is assembled in the USA...but what countries GNP is impacted by the purchase of a Toyota truck? America's or Japan's?
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I bet the American's earning a paycheck building Toyotas aren't too concerned with GNP.
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Originally Posted by acdii
He didn't say unreliable, he said the reliability resale BS does not outweigh driving an ugly vehicle. Resale is BS too. My Camry Hybrid did NOT hold it's value even though it was in very good condition with low miles. It was no different than any of the Fords I owned. The material quality is also a joke, the two Toyotas I had had the cheapest materials I have seen in quite some time. I pressed the palm of my hand on the seat cushion at the front and felt the damned springs through the thin foam and cloth. The thing squeaked, the sunroof stuck several times, and it was noisy, for a Hybrid. Granted it always ran, and that is what is good about them, but man, they are over priced for what you get.

Today they are the ugliest things on the road, just one notch above a Pontiac Aztec, voted the ugliest car ever made at one time.
I've never owned a Toyota, but my wife had a 1999 Toyota Tercel for 10 years that she loved and it never had problems. She traded in to get an SUV and still got $5000 towards trade-in. Not bad for a 10 year old Tercel.
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Originally Posted by 77Ranger460
I bet the American's earning a paycheck building Toyotas aren't too concerned with GNP.
Very true...and I realize the benefit to the GDP...those employed building those Toyotas are spending their earnings here in the good ol' US of A...
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Originally Posted by Murphy_13
Very true...and I realize the benefit to the GDP...those employed building those Toyotas are spending their earnings here in the good ol' US of A...
Japanese cars claiming to be built in the USA are mostly just assembled here. Domestic manufacturers provide far more jobs to local communities when you consider all the suppliers and vendors involved. The difference used to be far more pronounced in the past. Even the domestics are using a lot parts from overseas. But, buying domestic autos still provides more benefit for local economies and touches more families.

I forgot to say, put me in the camp that thinks Toyota and Lexus vehicles have hideous styling. As someone said earlier, to each their own. The Tundra is only better looking than the new Titan. Not much to brag about though.

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The American Made Index is a good place to look for the percentage of American made parts on vehicles.
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Originally Posted by naplesbill
Japanese cars claiming to be built in the USA are mostly just assembled here. Domestic manufacturers provide far more jobs to local communities when you consider all the suppliers and vendors involved. The difference used to be far more pronounced in the past. Even the domestics are using a lot parts from overseas. But, buying domestic autos still provides more benefit for local economies and touches more families.

I forgot to say, put me in the camp that thinks Toyota and Lexus vehicles have hideous styling. As someone said earlier, to each their own. The Tundra is only better looking than the new Titan. Not much to brag about though.
Approximately 80% of the parts on a Tundra are made in the US, while only approximately 55% of an F150 are American made. Add in that EVERY Tundra is built in the US, then the Tundra is helping our economy way more than the f150.
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Originally Posted by 03SC Lariat
Approximately 80% of the parts on a Tundra are made in the US, while only approximately 55% of an F150 are American made. Add in that EVERY Tundra is built in the US, then the Tundra is helping our economy way more than the f150.
Actually Forbes disagrees with that information...... Also how many Tundra's are sold versus F150's? Don't think it's even close so I seriously doubt Tundra is helping our economy "way more" then Ford's F line of trucks.

The top 14 “most American” vehicles for 2017 all come from U.S. brands, with the Chevrolet Traverse, Buick Enclave, and GMC Acadia crossover SUVs being tied for first place with 85.5% domestic content. You’ll also find such red-while-and-blue-blooded models represented like the Ford F-150 pickup and the venerable Chevy Corvette, which has long been dubbed “America’s sports car.” We’re featuring the 17 “most American” models in the accompanying slideshow; full data for all 2017 vehicles sold in the U.S. can be found here.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorz...ucks-for-2017/

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Old 03-21-2018, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 03SC Lariat
Approximately 80% of the parts on a Tundra are made in the US, while only approximately 55% of an F150 are American made. Add in that EVERY Tundra is built in the US, then the Tundra is helping our economy way more than the f150.
That statistic does not account for which parts. Without acounting for the parts actually made in America, and their cost/complexity, it would be impossible make that claim with any real validity. In addition, where are the remaining parts coming from? And made in the US or North America? Don't get mislead by simple statistics.

Add to that the sheer volume difference and you will see there is no way the Tundra contributes more to our economy. If the pieces of a part are shipped here and assembled, is that made in America? Who is manufacturing the pieces? A million questions where the answers may change the whole meaning of that statistic.

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