SteveLord

Nobody bought it as a half ton and nobody is buying it as a weird in between either! Doh!

chimmike

I can't figure out what they were planning with it. They weren't discounting like GM and Ford to move them....and those trucks are pricey. It's like they did all that work to 'fail' and justify not being in the full-size truck market? I don't know. Could be a great seller if they discounted to be competitive.

Stu Cazzo

Is this a newly designed engine? Is the consumer going to have to pay the price for the R&D on this motor too?

Maybe Ford can design a truck for those who just want to portray being a truck owner and who park it in their driveway for looks...much like the honda and Victory motorcycle owners...
and...
Design and build a truck with power and force and suspension for the rest of us who also drive Harleys.

todd92

People looking for fuel economy with a $4000 upcharge, only in higher trim levels? People looking for economy can do the math. This would never save money. What were people expecting anyway? Everyone predicted it would be a turd and a turd it is.

DyLivn

Good point, I totally forgot about the huge up charge for the motor. You would have to own the truck for 8-10 years to break even.

acdii

Is it a $4000, or a $2400 option when compared to the 3.5 EB? If $4K compared to base, then its not that much more to the 3.5. Now, if it is someone like me who could really care less about 0-60 ( I do, but it's not why I have a truck like the F150), drives it 5 days a week, 120 miles a day on Rural highways, for 33,000 miles a year, basing fuel costs at an average of $2.60 for 87, and $2.89 for diesel, it comes out to a fuel savings of $1515 per year. This is with 17 MPG of my current 3.5 and est 27 MPG of the Diesel. If fuel economy while towing doubles, then add an additional $471 over 3000 miles towed. It isn't chump change, but is it enough to offset DEF and oil changes? That still is yet TBD.

However, since it struggles to tow a boat at highway speeds, what will it be like with a huge windsail attached to it. After reading that, I won't even consider it.

chimmike

I would not expect to see double the towing mpg. 16-20mpg versus 8-10 than an equivalent 5.0 or 3.5eb with the same trailer? no way.

acdii

They said they got 13.5, while my EB gets 7. That may not be exactly double, but .5 is close enough.

chimmike

equivalent trailers, I doubt it. 7? I get 12-13 with my travel trailer, using 93. 3.31 gears, too.

acdii

With 3.55 mine gets 7-9 pulling my 6400 pound TT. My 14 got 7 towing up through the Rockies with 3.15, and got better on flatter roads, 8-10 was what it was getting. I am basing the calculation on my RW experiences, not others. Mine is documented on Fuelly too. Shoot towing my 6x12 enclosed single axle I am lucky if I can hit 11 with this truck. I got 13-16 towing it in my 14, but the 16 is a much closer comparison to the new diesel except for the transmission.