Originally Posted by OneLap

Considering the 3.5 and 2.7 are both EBs, that's a 2 to 1 ratio over the 5.0. So the EBs as an engine group do handily outsell the 5.0.

Originally Posted by chimmike

eh, with all due respect to 'techs' who know the old school methods that don't require reliance on diagnostic software, these wyotech kids couldn't remove a turbo without a shop manual guiding them, wouldn't know how a turbo operates or that the bearings won't 'coke' with oil after shutting down thanks to water cooling, etc. I'll take their opinion as far as I can physically throw them. I'm sure their mechanic education is great and they're skilled at what they do...but when I hear folks talk about things I know more about, and that's their career....it's disheartening.

Were it not for warranty, I'd find a local shop with old-school mechanics who have a diagnostic computer primarily to clear trouble codes once they determine and fix the problem.

Originally Posted by chimmike

eh, with all due respect to 'techs' who know the old school methods that don't require reliance on diagnostic software, these wyotech kids couldn't remove a turbo without a shop manual guiding them, wouldn't know how a turbo operates or that the bearings won't 'coke' with oil after shutting down thanks to water cooling, etc. I'll take their opinion as far as I can physically throw them. I'm sure their mechanic education is great and they're skilled at what they do...but when I hear folks talk about things I know more about, and that's their career....it's disheartening.

Were it not for warranty, I'd find a local shop with old-school mechanics who have a diagnostic computer primarily to clear trouble codes once they determine and fix the problem.

Originally Posted by Fireimp141

Not true. Towing, yes. Power, at certain aspects, yes. Reliability, no. Mileage, about the same as the 5.0. A lot of my customers are upset about the projected MPG's verse real life. Gets the same as the 5.0.

Originally Posted by kenv47

I got the 5.0 simply because it was under the hood of the truck I liked.

Originally Posted by Fireimp141

Yah... look at any of the last couple pages and see "EB threw rod at 10k miles" "Turbo replaced at 20k miles" any of that. Everyone says the 5.0 is a dog, but mine is plenty quick and still going down the road. Hell there is a new thread right now about a 16 EB with rough idle at 56K.

Originally Posted by tsigwing

Originally Posted by hidesert cowboy

I drove a 5.0 in a rental truck for about 2000 miles after owning a 2014 ecoboost. no way would I pick the 5.0, so much more power right where you want it with the ecoboost. the motor never seems to be breaking a sweat.