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Old 08-15-2018, 12:07 PM
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My first encounter with lane keeping assist was a rental BMW - it was set to only warn with a very noticeable vibration when you crept too close to the line. The F-150 system's warning is very weak, barely perceptible. Setting it to actually "nudge" is helpful sometimes, and very annoying sometimes. I don't particularly like the wheel nudging back at me when I'm getting close to the line, or when I change lanes without the signal (Ok, I know, I shouldn't be doing that, but if there's no traffic, I do).

It is "Ok", but it needs refinement IMHO. Certainly not a deal breaker, as like Silver-Bolt says, I have managed to drive for some 40+ years without that feature.
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Originally Posted by BlackBoost
I hate this kind of tech, but I don't know why the trucks are so far behind. My wife's Rogue has an autopilot that will keep not only keep it in the lane, but will follow the car in front of her and will even come to a complete stop and resume without doing anything. Good for stop-and-go traffic because it just follows the traffic on its own. But kinda strange, and my trust in it is near zero. Still pretty damn cool to have that feature in a decent price range for a Nissan Rogue compared to many other much more expensive cars that have this kind of tech.
I have that feature also - "adaptive cruise control". My first drive down a steep, curvy highway hill inspired me to turn it off and settle for "regular" cruise control instead. It started braking - HARD - on its own when it thought that the truck in the other lane was directly in front of me. Technically, it was in front, but it was in the right lane and I was passing it. The road had a turn to the left, and the adaptive cruise feature didn't take into account what lane each vehicle was in.

Might be a great feature out in the plains states where roads are relatively straight, but not in eastern Tennessee!
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Here is the only lane keep assist technology that I will every trust...

You can keep your Skynet BS out of my vehicles.




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Originally Posted by 2015rubyFX4
We too had a 2018 CRV with it. It malfunctioned a few times. It sometimes brakes HARD when nothing is in front of it. Honda is preparing to do a recall on it so says the Forums.
Just like the 2015 F150 recall for unexpected hard braking from adaptive cruise control.

This shouldn’t happen on any vehicle.

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I'm a big fan of technology and making things easier. My wife's Subaru Eye-Sight is really good and I love driving her Outback. I cannot wait for full autonomy cars.
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Originally Posted by txbbqF150
I'm a big fan of technology and making things easier. My wife's Subaru Eye-Sight is really good and I love driving her Outback. I cannot wait for full autonomy cars.
I agree, I love the new tech in vehicles, regardless of how useless they may be or how much we don't need it. I use my adaptive cruise daily on my way to and from work, and I look at the dash every time I come to a stop to see if the auto start/stop kicked in... and I actually get a little disappointed when it doesn't.. lol.
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New tech is good and I admit that watching a car drive itself is cool. But you can become complacent and to dependent on technology. I'm guilty; I've driven in the dark with no lights on because I'm used of the auto lamp turning them on.

The Air France crash was due to pilots focusing on computer malfunctions and error messages rather than flying the plane. They trusted the autopilot to fly the plane while they handled the problem and it did, right into the ocean. Keep in mind the auto pilot malfunctioned even though it uses 3 independent computers to prevent a mistake. On a airliner when the auto pilot is turned on the pilot actually turns on auto pilots 1, 2, and 3. In this case all 3 failed due to faulty information from sensors. When they noticed a problem the first thing they should've done was turn off the auto pilot and take control of the plane. But if you've been flying for many years and the auto pilot has never failed and even landed you on the center line of a runway in near 0 visibility, you become complacent. But all machines can malfunction and fail.

Now tell me you can't see someone flying down the highway on auto drive taking selfies with warning lights blazing on the dash. That's going to happen.
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Originally Posted by BlackBoost
I hate this kind of tech, but I don't know why the trucks are so far behind. My wife's Rogue has an autopilot that will keep not only keep it in the lane, but will follow the car in front of her and will even come to a complete stop and resume without doing anything. Good for stop-and-go traffic because it just follows the traffic on its own. But kinda strange, and my trust in it is near zero. Still pretty damn cool to have that feature in a decent price range for a Nissan Rogue compared to many other much more expensive cars that have this kind of tech.
The new ACC does this now.
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Now tell me you can't see someone flying down the highway on auto drive taking selfies with warning lights blazing on the dash. That's going to happen.
You make a number of good points, . . . BUT:
At least some one/thing is in control. Those selfies and text are happening today. From hard lessons learned, these autonomous systems shut down and pull over if the driver doesn't respond in a timely manner.

Yes pilots have to fly and drivers drive but these system are coming . . . soon. Some will embrace the change, others will hate and shun it. Nothing new.
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Originally Posted by Tom_with_a_Truck
I have that feature also - "adaptive cruise control". My first drive down a steep, curvy highway hill inspired me to turn it off and settle for "regular" cruise control instead. It started braking - HARD - on its own when it thought that the truck in the other lane was directly in front of me. Technically, it was in front, but it was in the right lane and I was passing it. The road had a turn to the left, and the adaptive cruise feature didn't take into account what lane each vehicle was in.

Might be a great feature out in the plains states where roads are relatively straight, but not in eastern Tennessee!
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The new ACC does this now.
I don't think it's quite the same unless the new ACC also steers. The Rogue's ProPilot Assist follows including staying in the lane on its own. Does the ACC also now come to a complete stop and resume on its own when the car ahead of you starts moving? I thought it turned off when you came to a stop.


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