Disable auto start/stop for good
#381
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STeXy (07-15-2018)
#382
Senior Member
I disabled with FORScan, but it appears that I've disabled battery management, which seems like something I want. Who wouldn't want their battery managed? So I might just go back to hitting the button as part of my "pre-flight" routine.
#383
Worst hairday ever...
I initially used the jumper method in post 1 of this thread. While it turned off the A.S.S. on startup I also lost the ability to use turn it back on if I so desired. So I removed the jumper and used a relay to reverse the button operation and it now starts with A.S.S. turned off but lets me turn it on/off at will with the push button. Could probably use a Transistor to do the same if you prefer one of those over a relay. Other options would be a toggle switch in place of the jumper at the button, or a toggle switch to open the circuit to the brake pedal connector.
#384
I initially used the jumper method in post 1 of this thread. While it turned off the A.S.S. on startup I also lost the ability to use turn it back on if I so desired. So I removed the jumper and used a relay to reverse the button operation and it now starts with A.S.S. turned off but lets me turn it on/off at will with the push button. Could probably use a Transistor to do the same if you prefer one of those over a relay. Other options would be a toggle switch in place of the jumper at the button, or a toggle switch to open the circuit to the brake pedal connector.
How much do these trucks cost again?
#385
Hey guys, first time I read about the 'jumper' method. Will go back to post #1 and check it out. But first, do you only disable A/S/S and not the battery management system, like with FORscan or by disconnecting the battery connection? Want to make sure it'd only disable A/S/S and nothing else. I'm curious about the relay option. Could you please post instructions, 01fx4dude? Thanks man.
#386
Senior Member
So there, I've broken my self-imposed rule about commenting on the value of the technology. I just didn't like being lumped into the 'older generation' bit. There are plenty of people much younger than me who are hopelessly stuck in mud of their own making.
The Ford Memorizer is a fine option, as I understand it, to make the truck remember your drive mode and A/S/S status preference. Beyond that, several forum members have used the jumpered switch, which also seems to work without any complications. And there is the plug disconnection method others have described which, it appears, has no ill affects other than affecting towing functions (if you don't tow, no problem, and if you do, just plug it back in before towing). Choose your poison, because the technology isn't going away anytime soon.
#387
I read the jumper option, and I want to do that but with a switch, so best of both worlds. I'm all for environmental friendliness, but A/S/S actually wastes more gas for me, and also wears out my engine, starter, and battery. I can't remember the last time I had to sit at a light even for a minute. The ultra great majority of my stops are just for a fraction of a second, mostly at stop signs. It's also useless in stop-and-go traffic, as it'd just get you hot (no A/C), drain your battery (at which point stops working anyway), and wear out the starter. But if I sense I can use it, would use the switch to turn it back on. At least I MUCH prefer this crap than cylinder deactivation, which is not only undefeatable, but requires a lot more weight and complication on the engines, and it's way more annoying.
Has anybody removed the switch on a 2017/2018 Platinum? Want to make sure nothing changed. Instructions show to pull UP on the front tray to release the tabs. I was hoping we could just reach down from there without having to remove the 2 screws and yank on the dash, but maybe it's not possible? If not, just want to make sure we just yank on the dash as shown on older trucks. Looks like something can break easily, hence my trepidation. Ha ha. Thanks gang.
Has anybody removed the switch on a 2017/2018 Platinum? Want to make sure nothing changed. Instructions show to pull UP on the front tray to release the tabs. I was hoping we could just reach down from there without having to remove the 2 screws and yank on the dash, but maybe it's not possible? If not, just want to make sure we just yank on the dash as shown on older trucks. Looks like something can break easily, hence my trepidation. Ha ha. Thanks gang.
#388
Senior Member
Driving sensibility (coasting when you can, no excessive speeding etc) saves way more fuel then the stupid A/S/S does. Like I said before at idle a modern engines used drops of fuel, not enough to offset the shortened life of the battery and starter. The Engineer who came up with that should be shot.
I am the "older generation", and I use A/S/S almost all the time. I don't feel like I've been dragged anywhere. I also recycle about 6 times more than I throw away. Some things are just the right things to do, for today and for the future. Those who claim A/S/S is a PITA just make no sense to me. There is absolutely no inconvenience to using it. To say I won't use it because the fuel savings are not high enough also makes zero sense. The fuel savings are more than zero, which is something. It's not just about dollars, anyway. If you save a gallon of gas, it matters. The cost is inconsequential.
So there, I've broken my self-imposed rule about commenting on the value of the technology. I just didn't like being lumped into the 'older generation' bit. There are plenty of people much younger than me who are hopelessly stuck in mud of their own making.
The Ford Memorizer is a fine option, as I understand it, to make the truck remember your drive mode and A/S/S status preference. Beyond that, several forum members have used the jumpered switch, which also seems to work without any complications. And there is the plug disconnection method others have described which, it appears, has no ill affects other than affecting towing functions (if you don't tow, no problem, and if you do, just plug it back in before towing). Choose your poison, because the technology isn't going away anytime soon.
So there, I've broken my self-imposed rule about commenting on the value of the technology. I just didn't like being lumped into the 'older generation' bit. There are plenty of people much younger than me who are hopelessly stuck in mud of their own making.
The Ford Memorizer is a fine option, as I understand it, to make the truck remember your drive mode and A/S/S status preference. Beyond that, several forum members have used the jumpered switch, which also seems to work without any complications. And there is the plug disconnection method others have described which, it appears, has no ill affects other than affecting towing functions (if you don't tow, no problem, and if you do, just plug it back in before towing). Choose your poison, because the technology isn't going away anytime soon.
Last edited by 2015rubyFX4; 07-10-2018 at 06:16 AM.
#389
I initially used the jumper method in post 1 of this thread. While it turned off the A.S.S. on startup I also lost the ability to use turn it back on if I so desired. So I removed the jumper and used a relay to reverse the button operation and it now starts with A.S.S. turned off but lets me turn it on/off at will with the push button. Could probably use a Transistor to do the same if you prefer one of those over a relay. Other options would be a toggle switch in place of the jumper at the button, or a toggle switch to open the circuit to the brake pedal connector.
#390
Senior Member
I thought someone posted that the other day, but I can't seem to find where. I don't know what to look for either. But yes, the truck seems to run fine.
Last edited by Whysoangry; 07-10-2018 at 12:24 AM.