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Old 03-13-2019, 02:04 AM
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It can be done, isolate the wires from the rear end pitail. Cut them and run new wires to a switch, give it 12 volts and you’re golden. That’s what I did
I believe from my research a while ago that the E-locker in the differential was expecting a pulsed signal, so 12v DC at some repeating interval. I'd be worried that using constant 12v DC would burn up the solenoid that Ford uses.

There is probably some off the shelf module you can buy that would replicate the pulsed signal, and then you can chop up the widening harness and bypass the module that the factory setup uses.
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Originally Posted by KG7BTU
I believe from my research a while ago that the E-locker in the differential was expecting a pulsed signal, so 12v DC at some repeating interval. I'd be worried that using constant 12v DC would burn up the solenoid that Ford uses.

There is probably some off the shelf module you can buy that would replicate the pulsed signal, and then you can chop up the widening harness and bypass the module that the factory setup uses.
interesting, mine is working atm. Where’s the facts to back this up? I may have to make some changes
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Why would you need the differential locked at faster speeds and who goes in a straight line very far ?
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Hey all. Trying to figure out a way to have the diff lock stay locked above 20mph. I found this but they can't tell me if it'll function the same on the F150, just F250/350. Anyone gotten in there yet?
I will never understand how a company can sell a product that they "make", but yet know very little about it. You mentioned that they told you they don't know if it would work on a F150 or not but yet they have instructions listed for 11-14 F150s(same as 11-16 Superdutys) and 15-17 F150 on there very own website.

https://www.spediesel.com/pages/instructions

I say "make" lightly because based off the instructions, it appears to be just a $5 relay, couple inches of wire & cheap wire terminals.

Originally Posted by KG7BTU
I believe from my research a while ago that the E-locker in the differential was expecting a pulsed signal, so 12v DC at some repeating interval. I'd be worried that using constant 12v DC would burn up the solenoid that Ford uses.

There is probably some off the shelf module you can buy that would replicate the pulsed signal, and then you can chop up the widening harness and bypass the module that the factory setup uses.
I think I remember reading the same thing a while back!

Wayne

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Originally Posted by KG7BTU
I believe from my research a while ago that the E-locker in the differential was expecting a pulsed signal, so 12v DC at some repeating interval. I'd be worried that using constant 12v DC would burn up the solenoid that Ford uses.

There is probably some off the shelf module you can buy that would replicate the pulsed signal, and then you can chop up the widening harness and bypass the module that the factory setup uses.
Im gonna need something to back that up please.
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Where’s the facts to back this up? I may have to make some changes
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Im gonna need something to back that up please.
Geez, you guys call me out and have no faith! At least I was able to back it up this time

From the Factory Manual, Section 205-02A:
When the ELD is engaged, the TCCM sends PWM voltage to the ELD field coil located in the differential. This voltage is initially 98% duty cycle, and then tapers off after 30 seconds.
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When the ELD MSS is engaged to lock the rear differential, the TCCM sends a PWM signal to the ELD field coil through the differential lock control circuit. This PWM signal is initially 98% duty cycle to lock the differential and then tapers off to a lower duty cycle once the differential is locked.
If someone has access to a truck with the locker and to an oscilloscope we can determine exactly what the truck is doing.

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Getting the SPE kit for a 15-17 F150 from Harry. Mines an '18 but I'm gonna give it a go and see if its still compatible. I'll update once its in to see if it works.
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Originally Posted by KG7BTU
Geez, you guys call me out and have no faith! At least I was able to back it up this time

From the Factory Manual, Section 205-02A:

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If someone has access to a truck with the locker and to an oscilloscope we can determine exactly what the truck is doing.
Sorry if it came off wrong, just wanted some data is all. Most decent multimeters have a duty cycle setting. Maybe Ill get bored and crawl down there this weekend get some readings.
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Originally Posted by rngtrtl
Sorry if it came off wrong, just wanted some data is all.
Oh it didn't

It's better for the community that I found the actual info anyway.
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Originally Posted by KG7BTU
Geez, you guys call me out and have no faith! At least I was able to back it up this time

From the Factory Manual, Section 205-02A:

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If someone has access to a truck with the locker and to an oscilloscope we can determine exactly what the truck is doing.
You said it's from the factory manual but it's a quote in your post. So there must be another post out there about it?

That's a pretty typical way to get a fast response but save energy and wear. Too bad they don't tell what the lower duty cycle is. You could probably use a fuel injector driver to match it.

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When the ELD is engaged, the TCCM sends PWM voltage to the ELD field coil located in the differential. This voltage is initially 98% duty cycle, and then tapers off after 30 seconds.
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Quote:
When the ELD MSS is engaged to lock the rear differential, the TCCM sends a PWM signal to the ELD field coil through the differential lock control circuit. This PWM signal is initially 98% duty cycle to lock the differential and then tapers off to a lower duty cycle once the differential is locked"



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