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Old 01-27-2019, 01:02 AM
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After owning a 5.4, I had absolutely no confidence that Ford can build a reliable modern V8. I've had turbos before, they don't worry me near as much as Ford's variable valve timing systems. A worry well placed, if other threads are any indication.

2.7 is cheaper, more available on the lots, and returns better economy than the 3.5 or 5.0 while being nearly if not just as fast. No need to defend it, it's best in class by a mile compared to the competition. It does come with limited payload and towing, but that's where the other two come in. Choices are a good thing, each engine has its strong points.
I had a 01 5.4 2V with 198K, a 07 F150 5.4 3V with 168K and a 07 Expedition 5.4 3V with 135K and absolutely no issues. Sure, the timing system isn't ideal, but mine were flawless. Of course. I changed my oil/filter every 3K and took care of them. So many people neglect them, then bitch.
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And the dick swinging contest continues...
LOL, it swings just fine.
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Originally Posted by Summers22 View Post
I had a 01 5.4 2V with 198K, a 07 F150 5.4 3V with 168K and a 07 Expedition 5.4 3V with 135K and absolutely no issues. Sure, the timing system isn't ideal, but mine were flawless. Of course. I changed my oil/filter every 3K and took care of them. So many people neglect them, then bitch.
I had an 04 with a 5.4 slow as ***** compared to the 5.0 .. transmission went at 150k but that didn't bother me.. i believe they had a bad rap because of the poor spark plug design and at one point that caused their resale value to plummet .. i only had 2 plugs that were broken in the engine which was not so bad and i still have my plug removal tool some where. All in all she served me very well
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Thereís only so much energy that can be created from burning fuel and oxygen. It doesnít matter wether itís from large displacement or small displacement with turbo or supercharger. The power delivery profile is usually the biggest difference. Todayís engines are pretty close to their peek efficiency with the technologies available. Using a small boosted engine saves little to no fuel compared to a larger displacement engine because it still takes the same amount of fuel to get the same amount of power.
tell that to my old 6.2 Raptor that averaged 8mpg compared to my 2017 2.7 that averages 16mpg
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Not sure why the 2.7 needs defending. Itís a ford engine. Ford is trustworthy.

theres a guy on this forum with a 2.7 and over 200k Miles, with basic maintenance. So the 2.7 is great.
I am a 5.0 guy, Iíve had 2. I have also driven a 2.7 for 26k happy miles.

Itís like a big running back vs a tight end. Similar weight, one is quick, the other has top end speed
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This thread is pretty funny. I have a 2.7 and love it, I liked the idea of the 2.7, liked how it drove, liked the price, haven't regretted anything. Honestly I think some people would have been better off with the 5.0 if they're constantly thinking about how small the engine is, just so I don't have to read posts defending the 2.7 when it literally requires no defending.

Buy what you want guys, they make different motors for a reason.
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To be fair, his last sentence does say "to make the same power"...the 6.2L makes substantially more than the 2.7, so it would stand to reason it would use more fuel, especially in a much heavier vehicle like the Raptor.
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Originally Posted by doug97gxe View Post
i think the 2.7 topic has been beaten to death already so nobody is commenting .. some 2.7 owners said they bought it for gas mileage.. we dispelled that myth in another thread where gas mileage is so close between engines driving style could change that. Then we had some 2.7 owners said they will save on gas yearly vs buying a bigger engine .. we dispelled that myth when you can't really budget on gas as gas prices change and life changes.. people take trips.. a monthly gas budget is not realistic when choosing a means of transportation when the MPG is so close between each other. Nobody will admit they bought it because it was cheaper and they didn't want to spend more so for now everyone is tired of engine topic dancing
It is not a myth. EPA & Fuelly.com averages show about a 10-15% increase between the 2.7 and 3.5 and 5.0. I once calculated the cost to my net worth by upsizing the engine when I didn't need it. Overall, it was like 10k to go up to the 3.5 over the 10-15 years I plan to own this truck. For those that don't need/want the extra engine, its a great way to lower cost of operation.
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Iím really looking forward to Spring when I can pull my 2016 Jayco Jayfeather 23RLSW with my F150. My Jayfeather is 5,995lbs GVWR and 4,605 dry. If it pulls my camper as well as my previous 2013 Ram Hemi w/8-speed and 3.21 rear axle pulled it Iíll be a very ďHappy CamperĒ! Based on what Iíve read, my F150 should handle it without a problem and its tow rating is 1,300lbs higher than the Ram was.
The 2.7 is easily a great platform for that.
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Thereís only so much energy that can be created from burning fuel and oxygen. It doesnít matter wether itís from large displacement or small displacement with turbo or supercharger. The power delivery profile is usually the biggest difference. Todayís engines are pretty close to their peek efficiency with the technologies available. Using a small boosted engine saves little to no fuel compared to a larger displacement engine because it still takes the same amount of fuel to get the same amount of power.
Smaller displacement with turbo gives you the option, should you want it, to drive really lazily and burn less fuel.
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