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Old 02-22-2019, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Vengenz View Post
payload wise, how is the 2.7? I know that depends on the options like tailgate step, twin panel roof, etc.

but i don't want to feel like a slouch with two kids seats in the back and the bed filled up with bags, presents, etc.
I have a 2017 screw with twin panel sunroof and 2.7 w payload package, 3.55 gears. I have two college age sons that are big boys, like myself. The entire family of four weighs around 900 pounds. With the bed full of luggage and beach gear, I averaged 21 mpg at 65-70 mph on a 16 hour round trip this summer. Never felt underpowered; anything but actually. This truck walks all over my 2005 5.4 screw.

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Old 02-22-2019, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dalola View Post
The lowest configured 2.7 F150 has a tow rating of 7500lbs, so not sure where you're getting the 5000 lb figure. Also, if you drive "like an old lady" as you describe, and only get 17mpg, you have something wrong with your truck.
Not necessarily. I'm only averaging around 17 lifetime so far as well. Bought in November. Temps have have rarely gone above 20 F during that entire time and have usually been around or below 0, along with significant 4x4 use. I have gotten as high as 18 city and 24 highway (at 60 MPH), but that has not been the norm. I'm hoping it does better when it warms up. It's still over 4 MPG better than I was getting with my 5.4 in the winter and it has a lot more power so I can't complain too much.
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Old 02-22-2019, 11:02 AM
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Not necessarily. I'm only averaging around 17 lifetime so far as well. Bought in November. Temps have have rarely gone above 20 F during that entire time and have usually been around or below 0, along with significant 4x4 use. I have gotten as high as 18 city and 24 highway (at 60 MPH), but that has not been the norm. I'm hoping it does better when it warms up. It's still over 4 MPG better than I was getting with my 5.4 in the winter and it has a lot more power so I can't complain too much.
In your situation, as you describe, absolutely. BBC needs to provide more details. I'm only basing my comments on what he offered up, which was very little & sketchy.

You should see marked improvement as you gain miles & warmer weather. I was averaging ~21-23 last summer with mixed rural driving. Hot days & highways would yield 24-26.
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Old 02-22-2019, 02:39 PM
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After owning a 5.4, I had absolutely no confidence that Ford can build a reliable modern V8. I've had turbos before, they don't worry me near as much as Ford's variable valve timing systems. A worry well placed, if other threads are any indication.

2.7 is cheaper, more available on the lots, and returns better economy than the 3.5 or 5.0 while being nearly if not just as fast. No need to defend it, it's best in class by a mile compared to the competition. It does come with limited payload and towing, but that's where the other two come in. Choices are a good thing, each engine has its strong points.
Ford can build a wildly reliable V8 when they want to, just look at the Romeo 4.6 in its post '96 model year (that's the year they fixed the valve seal issue) form. I've owned several Panthers and put a ton of miles on them, two were P71's that had the living crap beaten out of them in police service and they never missed a beat. The two valve Windsor 4.6L and 5.4L V8's are every bit as good and reliable and durable as the Romeo 4.6L. I'm guessing your issues were with the 3 valve 5.4L, no?

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Old 02-22-2019, 03:20 PM
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My general opinion of the 2.7 is that it is probably the best all around 1/2 ton motor out there. If you are not obsessed with power numbers and just want a truck to do truck stuff, it does very well.

1. Most of our trucks can't tow much more that a 7000 lb travel trailer without running out of payload. The 2.7 will do really well with this much weight. Most don't' need the 11,12,13k lbs tow ratings of the 3.5 and 5.0
2. It gets better gas mileage than any 1/2 ton V8 or the 3.5 EB by a healthy margin and matches the NA v6's. Check Fuelly if you don't believe me.
3. It's only a $1000 option over the base v6 and that includes the 10 speed. Come on!

One thing the holds me up on going for the 2.7 is that you cannot get it in a screw 6.5' bed 4x4. It also used to suck that you couldnt get a lot of options with the 2.7 Payload package but that seems to have gone away. I wouldn't buy an F150 without the 36 gallon tank.



GM's 2.7 is looking pretty good too. A 4x4 crew cab just managed 24 mpg highway, hand calculated, at 70mph on TFL truck.

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Hi All, I'm having a Problem when my truck sits I'll call it a cold soak for 4-5 days I get a Noise on start up it sounds like a steel fan blade hitting metal that's the only way I can describe the noise is there on high idle on a extended period of time because of the cold weather when it comes off of high idle the noise goes away, What the RIGHT
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Originally Posted by mass-hole View Post
My general opinion of the 2.7 is that it is probably the best all around 1/2 ton motor out there. If you are not obsessed with power numbers and just want a truck to do truck stuff, it does very well.

1. Most of our trucks can't tow much more that a 7000 lb travel trailer without running out of payload. The 2.7 will do really well with this much weight. Most don't' need the 11,12,13k lbs tow ratings of the 3.5 and 5.0
2. It gets better gas mileage than any 1/2 ton V8 or the 3.5 EB by a healthy margin and matches the NA v6's. Check Fuelly if you don't believe me.
3. It's only a $1000 option over the base v6 and that includes the 10 speed. Come on!

One thing the holds me up on going for the 2.7 is that you cannot get it in a screw 6.5' bed 4x4. It also used to suck that you couldnt get a lot of options with the 2.7 Payload package but that seems to have gone away. I wouldn't buy an F150 without the 36 gallon tank.



GM's 2.7 is looking pretty good too. A 4x4 crew cab just managed 24 mpg highway, hand calculated, at 70mph on TFL truck.
1 - 2 mpg is a healthy margin now? i guess we all have different opinions and even if it was 6-10 mpg more i wouldn't choose that motor
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1 - 2 mpg is a healthy margin now? i guess we all have different opinions and even if it was 6-10 mpg more i wouldn't choose that motor
Ah, so this is what we are doing again this weekend, lol.

First, its 2 mpg according to Fuelly, which is a healthy +10% margin for the engines we are talking about. Fuel is nearly as important in-terms of bottom-line cost as is the cost to buy the vehicle in the first place. The good thing about math is that it's true whether you believe it or not.
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Old 03-09-2019, 10:17 AM
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Ah, so this is what we are doing again this weekend, lol.

First, its 2 mpg according to Fuelly, which is a healthy +10% margin for the engines we are talking about. Fuel is nearly as important in-terms of bottom-line cost as is the cost to buy the vehicle in the first place. The good thing about math is that it's true whether you believe it or not.
its me and the kiddo this weekend.. i got time .. lol

like i said we all have opinions but 1 - 2 mpg is not healthy to me.. if i personally cared about 1 - 2 mpg i would change my driving habits not my motor
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Originally Posted by doug97gxe View Post
its me and the kiddo this weekend.. i got time .. lol

like i said we all have opinions but 1 - 2 mpg is not healthy to me.. if i personally cared about 1 - 2 mpg i would change my driving habits not my motor
We all have opinions, and some of them are substantiated with math

You do know that's a false dichotomy, you can change your driving habits & change your motor. You'll likely get even more benefit.


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