In defense of the 2.7 ecoboost
02-14-2019, 05:08 PM
#141
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They don't help, that's for sure. Unlike the 2018 2.7, 3.5 and 5.0, the Raptor's 3.5HO also falls as far short of the crank numbers as its Boss used to when dyno'd with its stock 35" KO2s.
As for the 2.7, it's a different animal and it's not going to live up to the 5.0 on the dyno, even with its '18 improvements, because everyone's eyes are fixated on the Coyote's numbers at 6500rpm. But that low-end torque spike and broad torque band all the way to 5000 is something that an NA Coyote can only dream of. It's super fun to drive the Coyote like a madman, but some days you just don't really feel like mashing into the pedal when you're driving around town, and that's where the 2.7 shines.
As for the 2.7, it's a different animal and it's not going to live up to the 5.0 on the dyno, even with its '18 improvements, because everyone's eyes are fixated on the Coyote's numbers at 6500rpm. But that low-end torque spike and broad torque band all the way to 5000 is something that an NA Coyote can only dream of. It's super fun to drive the Coyote like a madman, but some days you just don't really feel like mashing into the pedal when you're driving around town, and that's where the 2.7 shines.
The raptor needs a supercharged v8 in it but the HO 3.5 is no slouch.
02-14-2019, 05:19 PM
#142
payload wise, how is the 2.7? I know that depends on the options like tailgate step, twin panel roof, etc.
but i don't want to feel like a slouch with two kids seats in the back and the bed filled up with bags, presents, etc.
but i don't want to feel like a slouch with two kids seats in the back and the bed filled up with bags, presents, etc.
02-14-2019, 05:27 PM
#143
Its all already been said, but I really liked the 2.7 in my sister's crew cab. She also had the 3.5 before it, and the 2.7 felt every bit as powerful...at least from 0-60. I personally own a supercharged 5.0, but I feel the 2.7 makes an excellent truck engine for 95% of all F150 drivers and I'd happily own one if I needed another daily driver.
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02-15-2019, 11:39 AM
#144
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Oh it absolutely won't feel like a slouch with that load, it'll feel like a raised sports car. I have my 2017 2.7 crew cab 3.15 gears loaded down the same way often and through the West Coast mountains, there is no lack of power
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02-15-2019, 01:32 PM
#145
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Issue is not the 2.7 itself. Ford considers the 2.7 a "lighter duty" engine alongside the 3.3, which means that you [usually] get lower rGAWR (3300 lbs compared to the usual 3800 lb springs), the thinner frame, and therefore less payload out of the box compared to the 5.0, 3.5EB and 3.0PS. As of now, the 2.7L Payload Package is still available for 145" WB trucks, which gets you the 9.75" rear end, "HD" frame (as opposed to "LD" and "HDPP"), and generally a GVWR around 7000 lbs.
02-18-2019, 07:00 PM
#146
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Hi All,I got the 2.7 because for me it was the best choice,I came from a 2014 3.5 and drove all 3 of the line up and this new 2.7 with the cast iron block and port and direct injection impressed me the most.To everyone be happy with your choice and to Fo Mo Co for having a great line up.
02-22-2019, 09:04 AM
#147
I bought the 2.7 specifically for fuel economy. Unfortunately it’s really been a disappointment in that area. I’m at 17 ave over 2,200 miles since purchasing in December. Half my driving is highway and I drive like an old lady.
Kinda bummed that it can only tow 5,000 pounds too, not that I would tow that much anyway. That information was pretty clear in owners manual but all the advertising for max tow must have distracted me from the fine print.
those are the only things I can complain about however. I love the truck.
Kinda bummed that it can only tow 5,000 pounds too, not that I would tow that much anyway. That information was pretty clear in owners manual but all the advertising for max tow must have distracted me from the fine print.
those are the only things I can complain about however. I love the truck.
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02-22-2019, 09:37 AM
#148
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I bought the 2.7 specifically for fuel economy. Unfortunately it’s really been a disappointment in that area. I’m at 17 ave over 2,200 miles since purchasing in December. Half my driving is highway and I drive like an old lady.
Kinda bummed that it can only tow 5,000 pounds too, not that I would tow that much anyway. That information was pretty clear in owners manual but all the advertising for max tow must have distracted me from the fine print.
those are the only things I can complain about however. I love the truck.
Kinda bummed that it can only tow 5,000 pounds too, not that I would tow that much anyway. That information was pretty clear in owners manual but all the advertising for max tow must have distracted me from the fine print.
those are the only things I can complain about however. I love the truck.
02-22-2019, 09:57 AM
#149
I have a 2017 screw with twin panel sunroof and 2.7 w payload package, 3.55 gears. I have two college age sons that are big boys, like myself. The entire family of four weighs around 900 pounds. With the bed full of luggage and beach gear, I averaged 21 mpg at 65-70 mph on a 16 hour round trip this summer. Never felt underpowered; anything but actually. This truck walks all over my 2005 5.4 screw.
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02-22-2019, 10:11 AM
#150
Senior Member
Not necessarily. I'm only averaging around 17 lifetime so far as well. Bought in November. Temps have have rarely gone above 20 F during that entire time and have usually been around or below 0, along with significant 4x4 use. I have gotten as high as 18 city and 24 highway (at 60 MPH), but that has not been the norm. I'm hoping it does better when it warms up. It's still over 4 MPG better than I was getting with my 5.4 in the winter and it has a lot more power so I can't complain too much.