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Old 11-13-2016, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by speeddemon0712
That is a good point. That's how I was when I bought my truck, I had no clue what a crash bar was or that they even existed. Then the shop that did my level told me they had to cut them off to clear my tires, and I said ok not know what they were talking about. The shop told me they do it on most F150's and even some that come from Ford to have lifts installed. Well ok if the shop says it's ok and Ford does it, I guess it couldn't hurt.

Then I started reading up on this forum (thank you guys) and that's when I knew I had made a mistake. I figured out how I could put them back on my truck without having to get rid of my wheels/tires that I just spent $2400 on. If I could do it all over again, I would NOT have gone this route. Buy the nice 20" wheels from the Lariats, a nice size KO2, and be on my way.
I think what you did here, swapping side to side, will make little to no difference in the effectiveness of the crashbars. It is a much better solution than cutting them. I also agree with Rick about adding the disclaimer as there is no way to know for sure.
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Old 11-13-2016, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by speeddemon0712
I wouldn't lose sleep over it man. Your truck still got a 4 star crash test rating, I believe. It may not fair as well as a crew cab, but it's still a pretty safe truck.
Yep, only your lower legs and feet are at higher risk, who needs them?
Old 11-13-2016, 04:26 PM
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Yep, only your lower legs and feet are at higher risk, who needs them?
Didn't the Ram 1500 get awful crash test ratings? There are many other vehicles out there that wouldn't fair as well as his truck. And to my knowledge, the F150 is the only truck with these crash bars, which would only be the 2015 super crew, and all 2016+ cab configurations. So yes, I wouldn't lose sleep over driving a 2015 regular cab.
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Originally Posted by TheX

Yep, only your lower legs and feet are at higher risk, who needs them?
I could live without them, but you do you...
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Originally Posted by speeddemon0712
How is this less safe? I'm trying to help people by giving them an option other than removing the crash bars completely. Shops cut out these crash bars like it's nothing and I'm trying to stop that.
They are engineered to deflect forces in a certain way. Although it might seem inconsequential to you that simply swapping sides will change this, but you (and I) are not engineers. Again, these were tested in the location and orientation that they were originally installed. ANY modification can void your insurance, make you liable for injuries/deaths in any accident, even if you sell it to somebody else (especially if not disclosed).

The slightest change can have a huge effect when you are talking about crash forces. What seems like nothing could be the difference between walking or rolling (in an ambulance or hearse) from an accident.
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
Then put that in your original post. Something like "I've posted this procedure for those that don't want to totally remove this safety feature, or just cut it off or bend it out of the way. Please be aware that how the vehicle will behave in an accident is unknown."

Also, for those that don't care or understand and remove/modify the crash bars, they should sign a waiver agreeing to pay all costs associated with any injuries that may occur if they are in an accident and injuries are determined to happen due to the changes. Of course that won't happen.
Then I guess they'll have to sign a waiver for lifted/lowered trucks and tuned vehicles too. (Never know when a tuned engine will blow up?)
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If they are SO important how come ford only install them in the screws that got crash tested? There are several trucks out there that came from the factory without them correct? Not Saying removing them is the best way, I opted to leave mine alone. But don't chop up the Op if he's just trying to help people out that are looking for another option than cutting.
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Nice write up. Thanks!!!!
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Originally Posted by speeddemon0712
That is a good point. That's how I was when I bought my truck, I had no clue what a crash bar was or that they even existed. Then the shop that did my level told me they had to cut them off to clear my tires, and I said ok not know what they were talking about. The shop told me they do it on most F150's and even some that come from Ford to have lifts installed. Well ok if the shop says it's ok and Ford does it, I guess it couldn't hurt.
Honestly, it's completely mind boggling to me that a Ford dealer would cut off structural safety parts from a vehicle and then sell it as new.
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Originally Posted by f150-05
If they are SO important how come ford only install them in the screws that got crash tested? There are several trucks out there that came from the factory without them correct? Not Saying removing them is the best way, I opted to leave mine alone. But don't chop up the Op if he's just trying to help people out that are looking for another option than cutting.
Agreed. I'm sure it's best to leave them as is, but for the people who were going to cut them out, I think turning them around is a much better option.
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