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I own Odin Hunting and have been working through selling product rights off and know all too well what it takes for a patent. Talking with the BIG guys sure gets interesting and on a project like this I can rock out a design and test it so much faster because I don't need 500 meetings and 100 signatures first!
Hopefully we can just get this addressed so everyone can have the features they paid for!
Have you looked at the design on the 13 I posted for the discharge tube? My 13, is supposed to cool the back per ford, but it does not.
So I put on the INTAKE side today and I don't really thing it is helping as much as the exhaust did. I ran both seats for 15 minutes (one with mod and one without). The modded seat is about 5 degrees cooler and the other seat was still climbing!
I am going to play with something different for the vent tube just to try it.
***Public Service Announcement*** there are a ton of sharp edges inside your seats. If you are working inside them you need either gloves OR band aids!
So I put on the INTAKE side today and I don't really thing it is helping as much as the exhaust did. I ran both seats for 15 minutes (one with mod and one without). The modded seat is about 5 degrees cooler and the other seat was still climbing!
I am going to play with something different for the vent tube just to try it.
***Public Service Announcement*** there are a ton of sharp edges inside your seats. If you are working inside them you need either gloves OR band aids!
I think you need to be running your tests longer. It normally takes 30 minutes before my back starts sweating! And probably you need to be sitting in the seats to block the vent holes like in real life.
But then you have already done more testing than Ford did.. And I thank you for trying to come up with a fix. Keep at it!!!
Last edited by Livoniabob; 07-27-2015 at 09:21 AM.
I think you need to be running your tests longer. It normally takes 30 minutes before my back starts sweating! And probably you need to be sitting in the seats to block the vent holes like in real life.
I don't have any long trips planned right now but I will try to let them run for a while today. Going to kill my MPG this tank!
I am pretty sure Ford and most other manufacturers use bonded leather, which does have polyurethane in it but it is not entirely plastic.
Maybe on the actual part you sit on but I'm sure they are using the cheapest thing they can on the rest of the seat.. They even say just the part you sit on is leather. Easy test is to try burning the seat back and see if it melts as leather doesn't melt.
If it looks like leather and feels like leather and melts it's plastic. Or it came from one of those new GMO cows.
Last edited by Livoniabob; 07-27-2015 at 09:55 AM.
So here's an interesting diagram of how the seat is actually put together...
It looks like the heated/cooled output from the TED is connected to the "under armor" shaped ducts sandwiched between the two pieces that make up the seat cushion. You can see there is a molded area for the duct to sit and the thinner top part of the cushion has some slots - I'm assuming air transfers through those slots and exits through the perforations in the leather face of the seats and then heats or cools your backside.
I'm still not convinced there is enough air pressure being generated by the blower to move sufficient quantities of air into the seat. When I had mine apart, it seems that by far the larger volume of air is coming out of the exhaust port of the TED.
Here is proof that it is working. These pictures are of the back of the seats with the cooling on for about an hour. I apologize for the picture quality but basically a 35 degree (first I said 25 since math is my strong subject) difference of the leather temperature right at the TEDs.
07-27-2015, 08:37 AM
