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craptastic. I do have that white fishnet stocking thingy hanging down. Im guessing that is part of the 'sock'?
Would Tims kit still help my situation at all?
This is really unfortunate. The 2018 my friend has really had me reaching to turn it down /off the airflow was so good.
Your friend's 2018 with VENTILATED seats are totally different and give the SENSATION of cooling by sucking air from the cabin through the tiny holes into the seats past your body...for heating it uses a conventional "heating pad" to generate heat...... FWIW.... I have ventilated seats on my C7 Corvette and they are "Just OK"
The reversible TED actually created a 15 degree+ "cooling" of the air in cool mode, pushing conditioned air out through the perforated seats while the hot "waste" exhaust air was diverted either into the seat back cavity (2015+ design) or down and away via an exhaust duct (Tim's Kit). For heat, the polarity of the TED was simply reversed to introduce heated air to the passenger.
Note.... this was NOT any level of HVAC.... just slightly altering the temp one way or the other via the TED!!
It is still perhaps worth having them check to ensure that the intake "sock" is not collapsed (restricting system airflow) and/or that the TED/fan are operating correctly. If you are not feeling airflow from the perforations on you seatback, it may be worth FIRST having them check THAT. Tim's kit has a much improved intake and the additional exhaust duct set that optimizes the '15-17 design to be close to the really good pre-'15 versions.
Tim and I fought with Ford engineering to duct both in their "fix" for the TSB that we field tested for them on our two vehicles, but they decided to only do the intake side.... leaving ambient heat to collect in the seatback cavity.... oh well....smile.... AZPLAT
Last edited by AZPlatinumEB; 07-16-2019 at 09:15 AM.
good info.^^^ out of curiousity were the pre '15s TED or ventilated? Interesting comment on the C7. I have cooled seats on a Porsche 991 that work great. Just this F150....
good info.^^^ out of curiousity were the pre '15s TED or ventilated? Interesting comment on the C7. I have cooled seats on a Porsche 991 that work great. Just this F150....
Pre-2015s had TEDs in the seats, and they worked pretty well.
Pre-2015s had TEDs in the seats, and they worked pretty well.
-John
You're right, they did... for 2015 Ford redesigned the seats and made the seat itself thinner, reducing the ability for the hot air to get out.. My 2013 KR had great seats, then I got into the 2015 and they didn't work until Tim created his fix. My 2018 ventilated seats do a pretty good job, especially if you start the truck and let it cool a little. The ventilation sucks the cool air into the seats and cools them down.
Questions...
I received my seat guru kit in and installed it yesterday. Wasn't sure about one thing... the exhaust port that goes on to the TED. You remove the 2 screws... and simply attach the port with the metal plate with longer screws onto it correct? Leaving the black accordion hose alone behind it that stays attached to the TED and goes into the seat back. Instructions mentioned removing zip ties.
Also wasn't much room in there to route the hoses... I simply left the intake hose kinda out and over everything just going downward while staying on the left side of the seat. While running the exhaust hose, I could tuck it back along the sharp metal channel but there isn't a hole for it to point down so it curls back towards the left a tad. Anyone do something different?
Questions...
I received my seat guru kit in and installed it yesterday. Wasn't sure about one thing... the exhaust port that goes on to the TED. You remove the 2 screws... and simply attach the port with the metal plate with longer screws onto it correct? Leaving the black accordion hose alone behind it that stays attached to the TED and goes into the seat back. Instructions mentioned removing zip ties.
Also wasn't much room in there to route the hoses... I simply left the intake hose kinda out and over everything just going downward while staying on the left side of the seat. While running the exhaust hose, I could tuck it back along the sharp metal channel but there isn't a hole for it to point down so it curls back towards the left a tad. Anyone do something different?
Thanks.
I crushed the end of the exhaust hose into an oval and pushed it through the sharp opening at the bottom of the seat. That sharp spot holds the hose. It also cut the hose a little, but the exhaust is now making it out and to the floor. rather than going back inside the seat. That's the ultimate goal.
I crushed the end of the exhaust hose into an oval and pushed it through the sharp opening at the bottom of the seat. That sharp spot holds the hose. It also cut the hose a little, but the exhaust is now making it out and to the floor. rather than going back inside the seat. That's the ultimate goal.
Limited is correctly stating what seems to be a best practice... routing the exhaust OUT and separating it from the intake area to maximize system efficiency....
Question to you, BadaBing..... did you see and get a noticeable improvement in the performance of the seats after the mod!? Tim and I actually had Ford Engineering install OUR original mods and the difference we saw was dramatic (their TSB was of course sans the exhaust duct that Tim later introduced in his kits)..... especially in regards to removing the VERY hot spot that would develop inside the seat cavity in the early 2015 Pre-TSB seats.... it was actually a safety hazard as originally "designed" without any ducts as the co-mingling of the intake and exhaust would cause the output temps to continually ramp up hotter and hotter.... and the exhaust heat was trapped in the cavity, creating a "hot spot" inside the seat that you could really feel from the back of the seat.....some even filed Safety Complaints they were getting so hot!!. Ironically, dealers were telling early owners that the seats were working just fine and that the seatbacks were NOT designed to cool....go figure!!
So.... how do you think the seats work now!?.... if you already had the "sock" you would not necessarily notice as much of an improvement as an owner of an original pre-TSB owner would!!..... AZPLAT
Last edited by AZPlatinumEB; 08-12-2019 at 09:29 AM.
So on initial install, I did notice the hot spot was not there. Drove the truck again yesterday and still felt good but after being parked outside it seemed to get hot again and never cooled. Sent Tim a PM and he answered right away.
Going to revisit my install and work on routing the hoses better... more specifically being suer to get the exhaust hose out from the seat to the floor. My truck does not have the TSB sock.
Im noticing when looking at the seatbacks where the storage pocket is, you can def see a bump/bulge... hoping that doesnt get hit hard with a passenger or cargo.
Well guys I got me a new 3D printer to keep up with demand while I was in the apartment I needed something faster, quieter and enclosed. Lets just say the new machine is fricken awesome. I am officially caught up on all shipments and for the first time ever I am printing parts to build IN STOCK kits. I am very excited to be at this point and it should greatly reduce lead times. Right now I am printing 36 exhaust parts in one run that will take around 2 days of straight printing!!!
07-15-2019, 07:36 PM
