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Cooling Seats issue and TSB feedback
07-30-2015, 11:05 PM
#1041
Senior Member
google has been my friend lately...
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07-30-2015, 11:21 PM
#1042
Senior Member
I'm still a new owner and learning on the fly here. Ive read the first couple initial pages of this thread along with the most recent so I'm sure I'm missing some details but I will report my findings regardless:
I've got a lariat level screw with the 502A package so though I have heat/cool front seats and heat rear, I have no ming-ling massaging in my seat.
During the first week of ownership, and after stumbling upon this thread, I decided to give my seat fans a go for the first time. Though the seat bottom has 'sufficient' flow, there was significantly less air flow on the seat backs (almost undetectable) when feeling with just my hand while not seated in the seat. In comparison, we've had several late model Lexus vehicles that produced MUCH more air flow in both seat bottoms and backs. So, needless to say I was concerned and began to follow the developing problem with interest.
I'm now at the end of my 2nd week of ownership and have used the truck for 2100 miles (I travel quite a bit during the summer for work as our customers are mid-season). Today on my 400 mile return leg of my business trip I was traveling through the California central valley with temps @ 104F and decided to engage the seat coolers. When I turned the driver seat on high I could initially feel significantly more air flow from both bottom/back of seat. After about 30 min I began to adjust my posture to see if the air flow would change. Now, Im a relatively decent size guy at 6'2" 220lbs and if I let my lumbar region of my back slouch there was MUCH LESS air flow almost as if the fan was beginning to bind and slow down. The minute I re-arched my back I had GREAT air flow. This made me wonder if the housing of the fan itself has flimsy and just needed to be reinforced to accommodate the seated load. Another member mentioned the use of the lumbar to create space and/or separation from the seat-back and internal fan so as not to impede rpms.
These are just my observations and hopefully another data point to shed light on a possible solution. But like I said, maybe I missed this point already being discussed.
I've got a lariat level screw with the 502A package so though I have heat/cool front seats and heat rear, I have no ming-ling massaging in my seat.
During the first week of ownership, and after stumbling upon this thread, I decided to give my seat fans a go for the first time. Though the seat bottom has 'sufficient' flow, there was significantly less air flow on the seat backs (almost undetectable) when feeling with just my hand while not seated in the seat. In comparison, we've had several late model Lexus vehicles that produced MUCH more air flow in both seat bottoms and backs. So, needless to say I was concerned and began to follow the developing problem with interest.
I'm now at the end of my 2nd week of ownership and have used the truck for 2100 miles (I travel quite a bit during the summer for work as our customers are mid-season). Today on my 400 mile return leg of my business trip I was traveling through the California central valley with temps @ 104F and decided to engage the seat coolers. When I turned the driver seat on high I could initially feel significantly more air flow from both bottom/back of seat. After about 30 min I began to adjust my posture to see if the air flow would change. Now, Im a relatively decent size guy at 6'2" 220lbs and if I let my lumbar region of my back slouch there was MUCH LESS air flow almost as if the fan was beginning to bind and slow down. The minute I re-arched my back I had GREAT air flow. This made me wonder if the housing of the fan itself has flimsy and just needed to be reinforced to accommodate the seated load. Another member mentioned the use of the lumbar to create space and/or separation from the seat-back and internal fan so as not to impede rpms.
These are just my observations and hopefully another data point to shed light on a possible solution. But like I said, maybe I missed this point already being discussed.
I'm afraid you are going to have to open up your seat back and take pictures to post on this thread so we can see the official fix.. Thank you!
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Ecobst (07-31-2015)
07-31-2015, 07:49 AM
#1043
Senior Member
Cooling Seats - Are Your Seat Backs Working Properly?
You would think a major news channel would be interested in running a report on this and the ACC issue. I bet the communication and fixes would start rolling then. Especially with 16's coming out soon.
07-31-2015, 08:15 AM
#1044
Senior Member
FordService, I'm happy Ford is issuing a TSB for a flat snorkel to help with the exhaust...but what about the massaging seat feature that is crushing or collapsing the cold air flow duct into the seat back? Are they addressing this as well? Do you have any additional info you can provide?
I feel like I'm talking to a wall....
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Waynelittle1 (07-31-2015)
07-31-2015, 08:20 AM
#1045
Senior Member
His cannot be an improved design, they did not implement any kind of fix to the assembly line until 7/26. He said he had the truck for two weeks now.
07-31-2015, 08:49 AM
#1046
Senior Member
FordService, I was assuming the "snorkel to improve the seat back air flow from the blower" was removing the hot air...but I'm now thinking they are trying to improve the cool air flow to the seat back....ignoring the exhaust heat issue. Can you provide any info?
I feel like I'm talking to a wall....
I feel like I'm talking to a wall....
My 13 has the plastic exhaust port. My 13 per Ford is suppose to do the back area. It (plastic exhaust port) works, with the exhaust port dumping hot air to the feet of the rear passenger, no better.
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srg963 (07-31-2015)
07-31-2015, 09:11 AM
#1048
Senior Member
07-31-2015, 09:15 AM
#1049
Senior Member
I am simply saying that it is impossible for his to have the interim fix from production because his was obviously produced way before the interim fix was even introduced to the assembly line.
07-31-2015, 09:31 AM
#1050
Senior Member
A LOT of people said theirs worked fine for months and then acted up. I think it is a perception issue, because of the poor design it is impossible for them to work properly after an extended period of time.
I am simply saying that it is impossible for his to have the interim fix from production because his was obviously produced way before the interim fix was even introduced to the assembly line.
I am simply saying that it is impossible for his to have the interim fix from production because his was obviously produced way before the interim fix was even introduced to the assembly line.