Rich33Y

One topic is noise suppression, the other is noise cancellation.

The limitations of suppression highlight the abilities of cancellation.

Your both right.

roadPilot

'Sure we can'?

I said we can't eliminate all noise. I'm not referring to "active noise cancellation".

We've been engineering, building and driving automobiles for over 100 years, yet we still have noise. That's my point.

MGD

Go buy any decent set of noise cancellation headphones. Extrapolate the concept, then do a Google search - it's off-the-shelf. And in use by other manufacturer's as we speak. You can confirm that as well if you like.

Not my fault that Ford chose a different path to appease all of the myopic "gotta sound like a V8 'er I ain't buyin' it" crowd.

MGD

f150tamer

Does it sound good? I understand the complaint about not being able to upgrade sounds system, but how does it sounds otherwise? I've been wondering that since I heard they were going to do this but haven't seen any videos year

roadPilot

Noise cancelling headphones don't eliminate the noise created by a 4K pound truck thundering down a highway. I said we can't engineer away the noise. I didn't say we can't cover it up or put fingers in our ears.

Point being, if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around, it still makes noise.

MGD

My logic is based upon the premise that active cancellation - while effective - is still not 'perfect'. Hence, the concern is not eliminated, just largely reduced (a.k.a. "suppressed").

Whichever technical means are chosen, the goal - and the end result - is a significant suppression of the 'noise' level from the baseline state.

It will soon be rendered moot - The WHO estimated well over a billion people - mostly yunguns - will suffer massive irreversible hearing losses as a direct result of their media consumption habits and devices; primarily in privileged countries. Even Texas, lol.

So - self-suppression in a manner of speaking, where even an open-wheeled dune buggy will sound like a stationary Rolls-Royce with its engine off. lol.

MGD

Rich33Y

Here's a poll, and plenty of opinions........

https://www.f150forum.com/f118/fake-...highlight=fake

MGD

You misunderstood - it was an example. And yes - no system is perfect. But - some manufacturers come damn close to it. As I said - money + will + an audience = results. Apparently Ford is not interested in investing the time or money, audience or not.

Aboot that tree - If I'm not there to hear it, it is irrelevant. Being Superman must suck though, with all of those bovine farts....

MGD

Cortney James Beard

While not an expert on noise cancellation or noise suppression I HAVE done some research thank you and you guys like to have d@#$ measuring contests by pulling apart every single post.


The V8 sound IS part of the cancellation/suppression system. Sounds are introduced into environments as part of an acoustic treatment. It's not just about making the cabin an anechoic chamber, it's about making the cabin an enjoyable user experience. A vehicle is a dynamic environment that makes things very difficult.


Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's going to change, companies build things that appeal to mass markets, not individuals. Engineering is not the only aspect of this, there is licensing, legal, liability, ergonomics, royalties, other vendors, budgeting, etc.

MGD

Whoa there - not my intent at all.

I happen to (largely) agree with you, but just not on the approach.

Adding more noise on top of existing noise to mask some less desirable attribute is, in my mind, the wrong way to go about it. To the human ear it's just aggregated noise.

As fer user discretion - there are a plethora of end-user adjustments that are far more trivial, and less intrusive, yet they exist. Just look at the remote start option menus.

MGD