Consumer Reports on the F150
#121
Just about 13,000 miles on my 2016 Lariat FX4 Sport. The ONLY issue I have had is with the Sync 3 system occasionally not allowing me to turn on audio. Don't know what is causing it but it happens less than once a month and usually the next day it is working again for no reason.
#122
Senior Member
Consumer Reports has been anti-American for years. Bunch of white coats that spend too much time writing and not enough time testing.
Best selling trucks for 39 years running Steven M.
Best selling trucks for 39 years running Steven M.
#123
Consumer Reports SUCK! period. I was a long time subscriber and they have steadily been going downhill for a long time. Now, as far as the F-150. I have a new 2016 XLT sport Pkg. with the 5.0L engine. I cannot say enough good things about this truck. I have no complaints. My last F-150 was back in '04 and pretty much every truck since has been an F-250. This 2016 F-150 is my daily driver. and, I also tow a Jayco HT 5th wheel camping trailer with it.
#124
I don't pay any attention to CR mostly because I don't agree with what they think is important. They whine about Sync but don't seem concerned with torque curve and the ability to pull a heavy trailer through the Eisenhower tunnel. No other gas truck can compare to the 3.5 Eco and 10 speed with regard to towing heavy. That is what is important to me.
#125
Senior Member
Well, I think they accomplished their goal: Got lots of people talking about Consumer Reports and got their name in the press for some free advertising...
And that's how you do it...
And that's how you do it...
#126
2018 XLT FX4
Toyota's payment was late. That's all... *SMH*
#128
Consumer Reports re: F150
I've lost a great deal of respect in CR over the years re: their car reports. Are the results empirically determined, or are they compiled from CR members who actually own the vehicles? Have they ever given Ford vehicles great recommendations? Not too often. If it's not a GM or a foreign badge, usually doesn't get that great a rating. When they rank some Chrysler/Fiat vehicles over others I'm amazed. I used to be in rental cars almost 40 weeks a year, the worst ones were Chrysler brands, unless they had low mileage...anything over 10K miles looked beat compared to almost any other brand...yet CR gave those same cars great ratings. I have a 2003 F150 with 62K mi on it and have had very few problems (had a company car for 15 years...). It's the 14th Ford vehicle I've owned, and has been one of the best. Since the days of Mullally taking over as Ford's CEO (now retired), Ford has led all US maufacturers in styling, quality, range of vehicles, number of recalls, etc. Look at the Mustang...what other redux looks better than the original? None... CR is only one of the sources of vehicle info, not the ONLY source.
#129
Junior Member
If it is any consolation, CR has panned several GM trucks -- for reliability -- as well.
Tundras have had their problems over the years, but in general, the Japanese make revisions for reliability their top priority. It has paid off.
I'm not sure that the US Big Three share that approach. I'm particularly worried about the Chrysler trucks -- since anything FIAT touches seems to turn to junk.
It's been a very long road to supremacy for Toyota -- and it did not come easily. From time to time -- they too, denied design problems, rather than admit and fix.
Case in point: Seven or eight years ago, my brother's Tundra had both exhaust manifolds crack. It was a well-documented problem, but because the truck was just barely out of warranty, Toyota told him to pound sand.
He was a Toyota bigot, so he paid an independent shop to replace the manifolds. Drove it another 30,000 miles and one of the replacement manifolds cracked. On the advice of the independent mechanic, he went over to tubular headers but promptly sold the truck.
He now buys Hondas.
Those that have noted that first-year redesign vehicles often have more than their share of problems are correct. Sometimes it takes 2, 3 or even 4 years to work out the bugs on a new model.
When I was shopping for a replacement for my 2005 F150 (9 years/100k of relatively trouble-free driving) the 2015s had just come out. Although they had a ton of cool features over the 2014s, I purposely sought out and bought a leftover 2014. Glad I did.
I believe that the aluminum trucks will ultimately be bug free, but I knew it would take a few years.
American manufacturers need to redouble their efforts to lead the world in both innovation and quality. They can do it if they are willing to delay profits and concentrate on reliability.
Tundras have had their problems over the years, but in general, the Japanese make revisions for reliability their top priority. It has paid off.
I'm not sure that the US Big Three share that approach. I'm particularly worried about the Chrysler trucks -- since anything FIAT touches seems to turn to junk.
It's been a very long road to supremacy for Toyota -- and it did not come easily. From time to time -- they too, denied design problems, rather than admit and fix.
Case in point: Seven or eight years ago, my brother's Tundra had both exhaust manifolds crack. It was a well-documented problem, but because the truck was just barely out of warranty, Toyota told him to pound sand.
He was a Toyota bigot, so he paid an independent shop to replace the manifolds. Drove it another 30,000 miles and one of the replacement manifolds cracked. On the advice of the independent mechanic, he went over to tubular headers but promptly sold the truck.
He now buys Hondas.
Those that have noted that first-year redesign vehicles often have more than their share of problems are correct. Sometimes it takes 2, 3 or even 4 years to work out the bugs on a new model.
When I was shopping for a replacement for my 2005 F150 (9 years/100k of relatively trouble-free driving) the 2015s had just come out. Although they had a ton of cool features over the 2014s, I purposely sought out and bought a leftover 2014. Glad I did.
I believe that the aluminum trucks will ultimately be bug free, but I knew it would take a few years.
American manufacturers need to redouble their efforts to lead the world in both innovation and quality. They can do it if they are willing to delay profits and concentrate on reliability.
Last edited by mrgem; 12-13-2016 at 05:05 PM.
#130
No arguments from me on any of your comments. I was amazed when I went to look at the possibility of replacing my truck how the prices had skyrocketed! As someone recently retired, spending nearly 50K for a truck very similar to my '03 F150 XLT just isn't in the cards.