2011LIMITED#288

I honestly can't beleive anyone would buy a Chev. They're so ugly and look old after a few weeks. The headlights are horrible looking too.

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I honestly used to feel the same way about Fords. But I like the last 2 body styles / quality better than GM. I'm not brand loyal by any means. The best new truck I owned was a Dodge. It burned gas like crazy but gave me zero issues for the first 100k miles. No knocks, pings, shudders, check engine lights, nothing. Now Fiat owns them and I don't like that much. Plus I liked the styling of the 98 Ram I had. The latest body style looks a little Jersey Shore or something to me lol. So I will probably eventually buy a Ford.

hidesert cowboy

this is funny, after spending 25k behind an ecoboost I don't know why ford even offers the 5.0 anymore. the ecoboost is flat out a game changer of a gas motor. if something sucks I will say so. I drove dodges for 15 years before this. I am not brand loyal. The ecoboost drives like a diesel engine that runs on gas!!!! that is a very cool thing. It does what it does with so little fanfare. I don't think my motor ever hardy even sees 3000 rpm. Its got grunt like no gas motor I have ever been around, it runs like a diesel. to trade that for a motor thats going to take some revving to get the job done like the 5.0 will makes no sense. I don't care if the fuel mileage is the same, which I don't think it is BTW. there isn't that much a disparity in hp ratings between the 2 engines but that 5.0 isn't going to be putting down the twist like the eco will at speeds your almost always at. look carefully its not about peak or total numbers its about WHERE the ecoboost puts out its numbers.

real world numbers are going to be different. a little thing like changing out the tires is going to probably mean a mileage hit, even on the 5.0 as well. my eco has 3.55's and it pulls a 7k cargo trailer with no fanfare. I have even towed 12k with it before, plenty of power. I once tested ummm uhh not my truck but a dealers truck on a test ride with my 6k cargo trailer. it actually crested the top of the big grade we have around here at a higher speed than my 2011 superduty was able to.

its your money go ahead get the 5.0, but considering how diesel like the ecoboost engine runs in practice, I wonder if it could be the longer lasting engine.

sweetfordfx4

I don't think anyone with a 5.0 will argue that the EB isn't an awesome engine that is stellar at towing. I think the discussion is the longevity of the EB vs 5.0. Many believe that there are too many moving parts on the EB that might cause problems a few years down the road that the 5.0 doesn't have to deal with. As of now I think it's more guess work than anything because the engine is still relatively new. I have a 2011 with the 5.0 and I considered getting the EB, but decided to see if there might be issues with it. I'm glad I did, but there are also guys who got the EB in 2011 who had no issues either. Maybe time will tell just how well the EB can live a long, repair free life.

hidesert cowboy

if there is huge widespread issues we hear about it here first. remember when the 6.0 diesel came out. it was known right away that motor was junk, I drove dodges then and I knew there were big time issues really within 6 months. We are several years into the ecoboost deal. aside from a few minor issues I think the setup is pretty darn good. if a guy wants to put 200k on his truck well only time will tell. I suspect most of us will be in new trucks by the time they hit 125k. I have a 100k warranty that came from the factory on my truck. Its ford deal if there is a problem. The average guy that is buying a brand new truck right now will be in something else 5 years from now. enjoy the diesel like torque and power I say.

MadocHandyman

I don't understand the argument of fewer moving parts in the V8.
The Eco has two less cylinders worth of moving parts! I don't think 2 turbos outnumbers the total parts in two cylinders?
This argument is stupid until people start getting high mileage on both engines.
I've only got 130000 kms on my '11 but so far it hasn't given me any grief at all.

Watt-maker

I would say timing chains that prematurely stretch, fuel dilution, condensation build-up in IC, are big issues. Maybe ford fixed all that on the 2015, maybe not. Take a look at the 2011+ engine thread. You can easily get a sense of the most common issues with the EB. Not to say there are no issues with the 5.0, just possibly less.

I'll agree that the EB pulls great, especially noticeable in high elevation, but there does seem to be more issues with it. I had some issues with mine but had no time to deal with it so I traded it. I do miss it when it was new though.

If I had to buy today I would really have a hard time deciding which one to get.

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I don't count cylinders. I count systems. Ones a v8, ones a v6. They both have a motor and a transmission (2 systems). One also has two turbos. And an intercooler and associated plumbing. And a blow off valve, etc. (another system) More stuff to possibly repair or replace in the future. You'll only replace one engine if it fails no matter how many cylinders it has. I've had transmissions rebuilt for less than the price of replacing 2 turbos. Of course the six speed will probably cost more to rebuild. But obviously the Eco has more "stuff". Just 2 less cylinders. If I planned to keep it only a few years, I wouldn't care. I'm hoping to keep the next truck I buy for 200k miles like I did the 98 Dodge. If I have a truck that performs well and rarely has issues, I actually get attached to it. I haven't ruled out the Eco yet, as long as basically zero condensation issues are reported on the 15's. I don't want to drill holes and speculate about catch cans in a few years after plopping down 40 grand. I don't want a knocker either. I think I'm gonna be sick thinking about either scenario lol.

geno51

Lol I have 85k miles on my eco 75k tuned have had every mod you can imagine. And drive it like a rental car that I hate. Don't have a catch can don't have a hole drilled. Actually running 2017 ford gt turbos at 25psi. Add to that my dad has a 2011 eco with 134k trouble free miles People acting like the eco is less reliable is just stupid IMHO. Both motors are awesome if I bought a mustang I would go v8 but for a truck that I expect to work hard tow and haul I will stick with the eco simply for the fact of the tq curve. Ford stands behind this motor for a reason.

johndog82

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I wasn't I trying to say that its less reliable than the v8, I was saying it will cost more in maintenance in the long run to keep it performing like it did off the dealer lot. Turbos start leaking and/or losing pressure after 15 years of daily use; its just a fact of life. And especially on a rig that spends its life towing 7k pounds, you can count on that happening if you drive it long enough. Its not if, its when.