Cold Air Intake for the 5.0 - Please Enlighten Me
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the ECU adjusts to what the MAF reports. SO not ever an issue.
I will admit having looked over the 5.0 intake run vs what the ecoboost does could use a little cleanup.
But honestly it's not that bad. Seriously modified motor though - and you'd want a bigger tube and probably bigger MAF.
not necessarily. I mean you're going to get more out of the engine with the stock box and a tune also. to by extension having a vehicle without a tune is pretty much a waste right?
I say to each their own.
I will admit having looked over the 5.0 intake run vs what the ecoboost does could use a little cleanup.
But honestly it's not that bad. Seriously modified motor though - and you'd want a bigger tube and probably bigger MAF.
not necessarily. I mean you're going to get more out of the engine with the stock box and a tune also. to by extension having a vehicle without a tune is pretty much a waste right?
I say to each their own.
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I think he meant to say that any intake that does not require a tune for it, will not produce much gain. JLT or PMAS will make more power than with just a tune, but the tune will need to be calibrated for the intake on these. You can't just bolt it on and expect the truck to run!
Unless I miss something this still employs the factory MAF and it's temp sensor
the ECU will monitor the airflow thought he MAF and into the throttle body.
The engine will start - it will run - it might stumble for a bit till it catches up - then it will work fine.
It will of course run better and more accurate with a full re-tune.
The PMAS kit on their website says no tune required for 2015+. They do make kits where a tune is required but it's because they drastically change the MAF calibration. This is not the case on the 2015+ F150 Kit.
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please explain this. and show proof that it will not.
Unless I miss something this still employs the factory MAF and it's temp sensor
the ECU will monitor the airflow thought he MAF and into the throttle body.
The engine will start - it will run - it might stumble for a bit till it catches up - then it will work fine.
It will of course run better and more accurate with a full re-tune.
The PMAS kit on their website says no tune required for 2015+. They do make kits where a tune is required but it's because they drastically change the MAF calibration. This is not the case on the 2015+ F150 Kit.
Unless I miss something this still employs the factory MAF and it's temp sensor
the ECU will monitor the airflow thought he MAF and into the throttle body.
The engine will start - it will run - it might stumble for a bit till it catches up - then it will work fine.
It will of course run better and more accurate with a full re-tune.
The PMAS kit on their website says no tune required for 2015+. They do make kits where a tune is required but it's because they drastically change the MAF calibration. This is not the case on the 2015+ F150 Kit.
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trading out the air filter is a big benefit. Those paper filters work ok but new synthetic fiber filters and even oil/gauze filters flow so much better.
granted if you're trading your paper filters often - then yes it's about the same but you have to trade them very frequently.
on the tubes - has so much more to do with the original design as to if it makes a difference. On my DD new tube made quite a bit of difference but it's also a good bit louder and whistles. so tradeoff.
On the ecoboost f150's - the stock system looks pretty good for the setup. Ford did alot when the changed how the air gets to the box.
granted if you're trading your paper filters often - then yes it's about the same but you have to trade them very frequently.
on the tubes - has so much more to do with the original design as to if it makes a difference. On my DD new tube made quite a bit of difference but it's also a good bit louder and whistles. so tradeoff.
On the ecoboost f150's - the stock system looks pretty good for the setup. Ford did alot when the changed how the air gets to the box.
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Waste of time and money is a question of value. If looking from a performance standpoint, you may be right, but I am interested in finding out for myself. Otherwise, the enjoyment I get from discussing and contemplating these things on forums, anticipating the part's arrival in the mail, and tinkering with the installation is worth the price of admission to me. My truck is more than just about towing or getting from a to b. It's a source of enjoyment from which I derive enthusiasm.
As far as risk goes, I get that. It's exactly why I am putting it out here on the forums, asking friends and reading up on what I can find, so that I can become informed and make a calculated decision. It does look like the risk, if any, is quite minimal. I'll take the chance to entertain the hopes of some power gain and definitely the continued enjoyment of my truck.
As far as risk goes, I get that. It's exactly why I am putting it out here on the forums, asking friends and reading up on what I can find, so that I can become informed and make a calculated decision. It does look like the risk, if any, is quite minimal. I'll take the chance to entertain the hopes of some power gain and definitely the continued enjoyment of my truck.