nwebster

I don't get the belief that not having a fob somehow makes your vehicle protected. I am pretty sure before they made keyfobs, thieves were stealing cars.

No matter what security is added to these cars, thieves will find a workaround. It will never be perfect.

BlackBoost

THIS^



They don't need it to be left in the vehicle, it's a proximity device. All they need to do is walk near you as you walk away from your truck to be able to scan your key. Then they duplicate it, walk back to your truck and drive away with it. I said walk away from your truck because that's how they'd know which truck is yours. They could scan the fobs and copy them any time just be being near you.



There's also transponder chips in keys as well, that have been around since the mid 90's. Without the chip you could just start a car by jamming the ignition with a screwdriver and breaking the steering column lock, but modern cars with chips won't start without the chip being in the ignition.

Droog

"They don't need it to be left in the vehicle, it's a proximity device. All they need to do is walk near you as you walk away from your truck to be able to scan your key. Then they duplicate it, walk back to your truck and drive away with it. I said walk away from your truck because that's how they'd know which truck is yours. They could scan the fobs and copy them any time just be being near you."

Anyone waving "devices" around my groin as I'm walking will be dealt with long before a stolen truck happens

freman dave

I understand that if you transmit a code while locking your door for example, they can capture it. I have a friend that had his GM accessed this way. They got the lock code from his remote and stole some items from inside his truck. As a result of that I never use my fob to lock my truck when I am exiting it in a public place. However, I am skeptical if they can get a code from a fob in your pocket unless you are really close to the person, and like was said above, if you get that much into my personal space it ain't gonna be pretty. LOL

The harsh reality is that if they want it bad enough they are going to steal it and that's what insurance is for. Ford makes lots of F150's a year, I can get another one.

2015F150Platinum4x4

I'd much rather have my keyless entry and start than a key even if it compromises security. I'm sure Ford will go back in time technology wise based on your suggestion.

BlackBoost

I'm sure all they have to do is be a few feet from you. They don't need to be that close... If they can pick it up when it's sitting in a car behind a door, it can be picked up from a bit of a distance.

Feathermerchant

The story above describes a relay system that usually takes two thieves to work. Those with push button start know that all they need is the key FOB in their pocket to be able to gain access to and drive their car. The car and FOB need to be in close proximity to work. The theft device acts to increase the range so that one thief is close to the car and one close to you. Once the car is unlocked and started, the thief near you can leave as the car will continue to run. Like if you got out of your car to let someone else drive it and kept the FOB.

BlackBoost

The receiver also stores it so it can be reused.


From the article : "After the ignitions were turned off, the device was able to restart 12 of the 18 cars"... "It also points out that if you give access to your key fob to someone, including a parking valet, they can potentially use a unit like this to skim the codes and then enter or steal the car later on."

andredl

In response to being within a few feet of the truck's door the key fob emits its code. So, the attack is to get within range of the victim's key fob with a device that causes it to think it's next to a door. The device then captures the code emitted. In the next step the device functions as if it were a key fob, responding to the door and ignition with the code it captured.

I wonder if putting the fob in an RFID shield sleeve when away from the truck would work?
Link to Amazon

truckerhat

Lots of options on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/FobGuard-Fara...ct_top?ie=UTF8

Or you could make your own

Or you could take your chances like I do