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Old Jan 6, 2020 | 12:41 AM
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I see my mistake now. Thanks for your help



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Old Jan 8, 2020 | 09:51 AM
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Does anyone have the ford and molex part number for the MALE side of c327?

Is it EU2Z-14421-CA (Motorcraft part # WT-1013) Molex Part # 33000-0003 ?
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Old Jan 8, 2020 | 09:56 AM
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I got my harness ran yesterday.
i used a 6 pin connector salvaged from a honda accord.



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Old Jan 8, 2020 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by matt18
Does anyone have the ford and molex part number for the MALE side of c327?

Is it EU2Z-14421-CA (Motorcraft part # WT-1013) Molex Part # 33000-0003 ?
If you used 22 guage wire you want 33000-0003, if you used 20 guage wire, you want 33000-0002
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Old Jan 8, 2020 | 07:49 PM
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I ran into an additional problem while trying to add the missing 4 wires for the CAN Bus between C327 and C411 on my 2018 STX. I noticed that the male side of C327 was also missing the 4 CAN Bus wires. After looking at the factory wiring diagrams, it looks like Ford decided to omit these wires for my STX. These wires originate from C263 behind the drivers side kick panel. I had to tap into the CAN Bus wires pin 4 and pin 5 on C263 male connector to send these four wires out to the male side of connector C327. Once I did this, everything worked.

I can now see both SODR and SODL BLIS modules through FORScan. The only two issues that I’m having now is that it’s complaining that the Driver Display Alert LED circuit is open. I feel this is ok because I’m missing both sets of BLIS mirrors and PDM/DDM modules. I think once I get these installed, I’ll have the system fully functional.



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Male side of C263 shown.

These are pins 4 and 5 from male side of C263. I cut these two wires so I could tap into the CAN Bus circuit and be able to send the missing 4 wires to the male side of C327.

These are the finished 4 wires after tapping into the original C263 wires from pin 4 and 5. My brown wire goes to the cut violet/orange wire. My orange wire goes to the cut gray/orange wire. My violet wire goes to pin 5 on C263 and my pink wire goes to pin 4 C263.

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Water proof pins populated on C327 male side.

I had to break the water proof pins in order to insert the 4 missing wires on pin 1, 2, 3, and 4 of C327 male side.

Four missing wires from C263 added to male side of C327.
GOOD INFO! Does anyone know the Ford or Molex part#s for the C263 male & female?
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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan B
If you used 22 guage wire you want 33000-0003, if you used 20 guage wire, you want 33000-0002
thanks I appreciate it. I got all the wiring ran last night and went to make the first change with forscan in the ICP and I got an error saying drive modes not available and no no bliss options were added to the cluster.

looks like the modules combined are pulling about 270ma.

both tail lights are 12v+ pin 5, ms can + pin 6, ms can - pin 7.

i have pins 1&8 grounded and and an additional pin on the passenger side if I remember right, either 9 or 16

i’m using this guide

http://www.forddiy.com/2019/01/15/ho...ord-f150-2015/
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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BLU=F150
GOOD INFO! Does anyone know the Ford or Molex part#s for the C263 male & female?
They are not Molex. They are Delphi and nearly impossible to get.
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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 10:30 PM
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im having lots of issues. If I have both tails plugged in the IPC does not show anything about BLISS, if I unplug either tail light I get faults on the IPC and the settings show up in settings tab on the IPC. I've checked that the MS can wires are not shorted at either tail when installed. the door modules work which make me think my can loop is good. seems like the bliss modules are using about 135ma each and I noticed each module in the tail light has 5 wires, looks like can + and -, power, and 2 grounds?

my setup is 2 sets of belden shielded wire from c327 to a 6 pin connector in the rear. I have 12v on one pin, and the two set of can wires on 4 other pins, just before the connector the can positives are tied together, and the can negatives are tied together. after that on the other side of the 6 pin connector I have 12v splitting into 2 sides along with independent belden cables going up to each light, at each light I have 12v switched connected to pin 5, can+ to pin 6, and can - to pin 7, pin 8 is ground. im not able to see either module in forscsan.

I also measured the resistance at c327 from ms can+ to ms can- and I get about 61 ohms. this guide says it should be 50-70ohm.

any ideas?

http://www.esd-electronics-usa.com/C...ing-Guide.html
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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Donjuan2002
They are not Molex. They are Delphi and nearly impossible to get.
thanks Donjuan2002, would you happen to know the part #s?
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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 11:40 PM
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[QUOTE=Donjuan2002;6456867]They are not Molex. They are Delphi and nearly impossible to get.[/QUOTE
What about the male.& female pins/terminals part #s. I just really dont want to cut my wires! Thanks!
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