Blown Ecoboost at 21k miles!
10-31-2017, 05:10 PM
#161
So let me get this straight. I clearly said earlier, that when the tune is too aggressive and it caused the motor to blow up.
Then you all argue with me and tell me I'm wrong.
Then I ask why I am wrong and you then tell me that the tune was too aggressive and I already answered my question.
So when we take theses engines out of Ford's designed safe operating zone. Then it's normal for them to blow up.
You guys have argued with me about a point I made two hours ago.
Now I know I'm officially talking to a bunch of people dumber than a block wall.
Then you all argue with me and tell me I'm wrong.
Then I ask why I am wrong and you then tell me that the tune was too aggressive and I already answered my question.
So when we take theses engines out of Ford's designed safe operating zone. Then it's normal for them to blow up.
You guys have argued with me about a point I made two hours ago.
Now I know I'm officially talking to a bunch of people dumber than a block wall.
Do you think about these things before posting? 
10-31-2017, 05:18 PM
#162
Senior Member
So let me get this straight. I clearly said earlier, that when the tune is too aggressive and it caused the motor to blow up.
Then you all argue with me and tell me I'm wrong.
Then I ask why I am wrong and you then tell me that the tune was too aggressive and I already answered my question.
So when we take theses engines out of Ford's designed safe operating zone. Then it's normal for them to blow up.
You guys have argued with me about a point I made two hours ago.
Now I know I'm officially talking to a bunch of people dumber than a block wall.
Then you all argue with me and tell me I'm wrong.
Then I ask why I am wrong and you then tell me that the tune was too aggressive and I already answered my question.
So when we take theses engines out of Ford's designed safe operating zone. Then it's normal for them to blow up.
You guys have argued with me about a point I made two hours ago.
Now I know I'm officially talking to a bunch of people dumber than a block wall.
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chimmike (10-31-2017)
10-31-2017, 05:21 PM
#163
Senior Member
I might be old school, because I've owned, built, and worked on a lot of old school American iron, and these engines are not that. They haven't been for quite a long time. These are not engines that I expect to survive a lot of abuse, and pushing them too far is inviting disaster. Add aggressive tuning or similar mods to that and you're really pushing your luck.
You could do all sorts of crazy mods to pretty much any manufacturer's engine of the muscle car era. Iron blocks, iron heads, nodular crankshafts and hefty cams could all take a heck of a lot of stress and abuse. Still, they occasionally bit the big one when pushed too hard.
I do a lot of work for a Japanese-American auto manufacturing plant and have spent a lot of time looking at modern aluminum engines in all states of assembly. These things make my Victory 100 C.I. V-Twin look like a monster. I swear I could lift one of these aluminum 4-cyclinder engines out of the engine bay without any help and probably without breaking a sweat.
All of which is just to say that while manufacturers including Ford are getting really impressive power and torque numbers out of these little powerplants, I just don't think they are built to take much abuse... they are engineered and built to balance cost, power, and economy. They are definitely not going to hold up to the kind of stresses we regularly put older cast iron engines through. So if one wants to race their F150 (even on the freeway on-ramp), I say drop in a real performance engine rather than pushing these little 6-cylinders (or even the 5.0) to their limits... As much as I'm impressed by what these stock ecoboosts can do, they aren't, and never will be, race engines. Trying to pretend that they can be is just silly.
OK, yeah, I'm definitely old school, I admit it.
You could do all sorts of crazy mods to pretty much any manufacturer's engine of the muscle car era. Iron blocks, iron heads, nodular crankshafts and hefty cams could all take a heck of a lot of stress and abuse. Still, they occasionally bit the big one when pushed too hard.
I do a lot of work for a Japanese-American auto manufacturing plant and have spent a lot of time looking at modern aluminum engines in all states of assembly. These things make my Victory 100 C.I. V-Twin look like a monster. I swear I could lift one of these aluminum 4-cyclinder engines out of the engine bay without any help and probably without breaking a sweat.
All of which is just to say that while manufacturers including Ford are getting really impressive power and torque numbers out of these little powerplants, I just don't think they are built to take much abuse... they are engineered and built to balance cost, power, and economy. They are definitely not going to hold up to the kind of stresses we regularly put older cast iron engines through. So if one wants to race their F150 (even on the freeway on-ramp), I say drop in a real performance engine rather than pushing these little 6-cylinders (or even the 5.0) to their limits... As much as I'm impressed by what these stock ecoboosts can do, they aren't, and never will be, race engines. Trying to pretend that they can be is just silly.
OK, yeah, I'm definitely old school, I admit it.
10-31-2017, 05:34 PM
#164
Senior Member
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10-31-2017, 05:36 PM
#166
Senile member
aluminum block twin-turbo V6
http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorspo...-world-record/
which constantly battles twin-turbo V10 lambos for supremacy.
Just sayin', maybe time to explore new technology.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorspo...-world-record/
which constantly battles twin-turbo V10 lambos for supremacy.
Just sayin', maybe time to explore new technology.
10-31-2017, 05:46 PM
#167
It ain't even worth try to talk common sense. These guys are eco boost couch wizards. Lots of block walls. Haha
I might be old school, because I've owned, built, and worked on a lot of old school American iron, and these engines are not that. They haven't been for quite a long time. These are not engines that I expect to survive a lot of abuse, and pushing them too far is inviting disaster. Add aggressive tuning or similar mods to that and you're really pushing your luck.
You could do all sorts of crazy mods to pretty much any manufacturer's engine of the muscle car era. Iron blocks, iron heads, nodular crankshafts and hefty cams could all take a heck of a lot of stress and abuse. Still, they occasionally bit the big one when pushed too hard.
I do a lot of work for a Japanese-American auto manufacturing plant and have spent a lot of time looking at modern aluminum engines in all states of assembly. These things make my Victory 100 C.I. V-Twin look like a monster. I swear I could lift one of these aluminum 4-cyclinder engines out of the engine bay without any help and probably without breaking a sweat.
All of which is just to say that while manufacturers including Ford are getting really impressive power and torque numbers out of these little powerplants, I just don't think they are built to take much abuse... they are engineered and built to balance cost, power, and economy. They are definitely not going to hold up to the kind of stresses we regularly put older cast iron engines through. So if one wants to race their F150 (even on the freeway on-ramp), I say drop in a real performance engine rather than pushing these little 6-cylinders (or even the 5.0) to their limits... As much as I'm impressed by what these stock ecoboosts can do, they aren't, and never will be, race engines. Trying to pretend that they can be is just silly.
OK, yeah, I'm definitely old school, I admit it.
You could do all sorts of crazy mods to pretty much any manufacturer's engine of the muscle car era. Iron blocks, iron heads, nodular crankshafts and hefty cams could all take a heck of a lot of stress and abuse. Still, they occasionally bit the big one when pushed too hard.
I do a lot of work for a Japanese-American auto manufacturing plant and have spent a lot of time looking at modern aluminum engines in all states of assembly. These things make my Victory 100 C.I. V-Twin look like a monster. I swear I could lift one of these aluminum 4-cyclinder engines out of the engine bay without any help and probably without breaking a sweat.
All of which is just to say that while manufacturers including Ford are getting really impressive power and torque numbers out of these little powerplants, I just don't think they are built to take much abuse... they are engineered and built to balance cost, power, and economy. They are definitely not going to hold up to the kind of stresses we regularly put older cast iron engines through. So if one wants to race their F150 (even on the freeway on-ramp), I say drop in a real performance engine rather than pushing these little 6-cylinders (or even the 5.0) to their limits... As much as I'm impressed by what these stock ecoboosts can do, they aren't, and never will be, race engines. Trying to pretend that they can be is just silly.
OK, yeah, I'm definitely old school, I admit it.
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Slowtrucker (10-31-2017)
10-31-2017, 05:48 PM
#168
Yes because a super car and a f150 are one in the same. Haha
aluminum block twin-turbo V6
http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorspo...-world-record/
which constantly battles twin-turbo V10 lambos for supremacy.
Just sayin', maybe time to explore new technology.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorspo...-world-record/
which constantly battles twin-turbo V10 lambos for supremacy.
Just sayin', maybe time to explore new technology.
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10-31-2017, 05:50 PM
#169
Senior Member
That's easy. Last time I pulled a heavy trailer up a mountain (3.7L V6 NA, 6-spd trans), I was holding around 2400 rpm. No problem. Wide open throttle in an empty truck you're going to see it redline. Kaboom (well, possibly...)
10-31-2017, 05:55 PM
#170
Senior Member