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agreed. Pushbutton stays on the lariat and higher trucks
All recent F150's are essentially push button start anyways. Some get a button, some you insert a key. The ignition is the same on both. When using the key, no need to hold it in the start position like older cars.
That power distribution screen is not reflective of the actual power to the wheels.
I had a hell of a winter here and there were numerous times I had put that screen up and it showed that power was going to all wheels meanwhile my *** end was sliding around.
Well yes it's not like AWD - another point 4A at most will push 50% of the power front and rear and if you're lucky that means you are getting 25% torque at each wheel. Interesting that screen exists on all F150's too but it's really there for the Raptor model.
So sure your tail was waggin because it can't cut all power to the rear. Unlike a viscous torsen AWD system will. But you were still able to move - that's the key.
I just want the 4A if I had a 4wd model so I wouldn't have to move the ****. silly - I know. but for all the money I pay for it - knowing the hardware underneath is the same - it would bother me. Or maybe not I don't have the need or want for 4wd right now but there are times it would come in handy
I guess. I've test driven some with it. It's cool and all....but...it takes me no time to put a key in.
Its for convenience more than saving time. Keep your key in your pocket and thats it.
Originally Posted by tuflehundon
I personally don't like push button start trucks. Nowhere to put the keys, and they dig into my side on longer trips. My rental Explorer when my truck was in for service had push button start. I hated it. There's already no good place to put a large phone, now I have to find a place to put my keys?
I keep mine in my jacket pocket or if im going out naked ill just put it in that little slot beside the shifter.
Originally Posted by KEVININCHICAGO
I think with push button, the truck is always on a run timer if you idle long periods unless you disable after the start. With a key, you can run the truck until the tank goes dry. I will always want a key instead of push button for this very reason. I have had to idle for 10 hours before.
Its 15 mins before the warning pops up and all you have to is press ok to keep it going but yeah i guess if you're the 0.00000000000000000001% who needs to let the car idle unattended for hours i could see this being a pain in the *** lol Hope your insurance covers theft from that
Originally Posted by hidesert cowboy
Heck I have forgot and accidently left the truck in 4hi for hundreds of miles. Nothing has ever happened its works fine.
EVERY manufacture has strict guidelines about operating your truck in 4wd but what do they know right, heck it works for you lol
Originally Posted by 52isntbigenough
This is the big deal with 4A. Not enough slippage for 4HI, too much for 2W. I drive to NE WI, 300 miles one way, at least once a month and the freeways look a lot like this a majority of the winter. Dry patches to slush, to ice to snow. A ton of transition. 4A is perfect for this.
That is a prime example of where 4A is beyond beneficial. When i leave the house in winter and theres any doubt in my mind that the roads might be slick ill just pop it in 4a and carry on with my day
What is so wrong with 4HI in those conditions? I would think the 4A advantage would be in city/town situations with lots of turning. Out on a straight highway like that, it's 4HI all day. Much more sure-footed than 4A.
I have a low level trim 2018 Jeep Wrangler and even that has push button start, plus there's a spot between the cup holders that holds the key fob. It's about time Ford makes it standard on all F-150's.
actually that is exactly the scenario I am in 4hi with. remember I said its fine when you are headed straight and not turning? that looks like it. the only time 4hi is a problem is if you are turning around in a parking lot. I drive in conditions like that ALL the time. ALL the time I just use 4hi. you are having to switch to 4a anyways from 2 hi. just use 4hi. its not hurting the truck one iota to drive in conditions like that in 4 hi. its been done for decades before the 4a was even around. 4a is more complexity and more crap that can break in the truck. I drive in areas that are so remote, some of the most remote areas in the lower 48, no cell phone coverage, the nearest person may be 35 miles away. The dirt road may see one car a year. I don't want anything that makes my 4wd system more complex. more complexity could create a serious hazard for up to and including death, no joke. Also I wonder exactly how the 4a system works. is it active at all times or does it only activate when a wheel breaks traction? There are lots of times where I actually use throttle in 4wd to get me out of trouble. in particular pulling a trailer in ice conditions. I would rather have the 4hi system on so that I KNOW its driving the wheels. I can use throttle to correct a side. If the 4a system takes a second to activate its a variable I can't control at the wheel. Most people aren't experienced enough to drive like this, or think that fast. I would rather not have electronic controls on the truck in particular ABS. which lessens braking power to the least gripping wheel. 4a is just more electronic controls that take the driver out of the equation.
According to the company that designed and made your truck they clearly state that 4hi/lo is only to be used on CONSISTENTLY slick surfaces, that road in the pic could very well be nothing but black ice under it or it can just be wet slush with full traction still. Driving on a straight road with full traction at higher speeds(ford doesnt state but my ram was limited to 80kmph in 4 hi) will mess your truck up too but hey you've been doing it and it works so we should ignore Ford right?
You're absolutely right that you have to turn the **** to go into 4a or 4hi but the biggest difference is you only have to do it once with 4a where as with 4hi you can be potentially switching back and forth lots
You also worry about about more complex systems breaking and potentially getting stranded on remote roads but you go against what Ford tells us with the basic 4wd system operations?
There's so much wrong with your post but the stupidest part of it all is that you're arguing with us about 2 systems you're not even sure how it works LOL How do you go and bash 4A and in the next sentence ask how it works?
Im not preaching that 4A is the be all end all and i dont think anyone is so please spare that argument. 4A is for the conditions where you're not sure or consistently changing and for me thats my winters.
Originally Posted by dalola
What is so wrong with 4HI in those conditions? I would think the 4A advantage would be in city/town situations with lots of turning. Out on a straight highway like that, it's 4HI all day. Much more sure-footed than 4A.
03-21-2019, 01:44 PM
