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Old 08-30-2018, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackBoost
I did see that and fully believe it's a marketing thing. My buddy has a 2014 with Duratracs and he slides around a lot more than I do with my Winter Slaloms. It's no surprise to me that CT rates one of their most expensive tires as being the best in winter... Marketing 101
I have had/do run Duratrac's, while they are not a dedicated winter tire they actually do have a 'softer compound' than a lot of other snowflake rated tires I have used. I would believe that if the testing was done above -20C that they would certainly perform as well or better than a lot of the cheaper/mid-range winter tires (good way to fudge but not really a marketing test). Once you hit that -20C range all of the 3-peak seem to harden up, all to different degrees and at different temps but to me feels like the range.

Everyone also needs to keep in mind that yes the 3-peak mountain/snowflake rating is a minimum but even within those that are rated for it are not all equal, some are better than others.
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I wouldn't run anything Pirellli has to offer after the horrible experience of running Pirelli P-Zero's on my Mustang. I know it's apples to oranges but that left a bad taste in my mouth that I obviously haven't gotten over. Lol
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I have these tires on both of my trucks. They are better than the stock GY Wrangler Kevlars when it comes to overall grip, especially in the winter snow. I'm in Toronto and had the pleasure of trying these during the last snow storm in March. Ride, handling and quietness is the same as the GY.

prior to these, I had the K02s and they were far too harsh and hard. They looked great though. I had to take them off.

then I found these new Pirellis... they gave me the more aggressive look, better winter performance and OEM ride.... everything I wanted.

cant go wrong with these


What pressure do you run them at?
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Originally Posted by Ryan_2020
I have had/do run Duratrac's, while they are not a dedicated winter tire they actually do have a 'softer compound' than a lot of other snowflake rated tires I have used. I would believe that if the testing was done above -20C that they would certainly perform as well or better than a lot of the cheaper/mid-range winter tires (good way to fudge but not really a marketing test). Once you hit that -20C range all of the 3-peak seem to harden up, all to different degrees and at different temps but to me feels like the range.

Everyone also needs to keep in mind that yes the 3-peak mountain/snowflake rating is a minimum but even within those that are rated for it are not all equal, some are better than others.
I think that's also why so many Americans are happy with the Duratracs for winter when not many get colder than -20C. With my Winter Slaloms, I still get good grip with -30C and -40C. We've had those temps a few times the past couple winters. Truck and tires performed great
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Originally Posted by 56ecoboost
What pressure do you run them at?
35psi
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What size are they
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I’m looking at 275/60r20
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Originally Posted by BlackBoost
I did see that and fully believe it's a marketing thing. My buddy has a 2014 with Duratracs and he slides around a lot more than I do with my Winter Slaloms. It's no surprise to me that CT rates one of their most expensive tires as being the best in winter... Marketing 101
Fair enough. I'll say it again: I really, really wish someone independent would do a real comparison test on LT tires in the snow and ice, comparing both hybrid styles (Nokian Rotiva, Duratrac, Falken Wildpeak, etc), unstudded dedicated winters, and studded winters.

I can only make a direct comparison between the pricepoint-oriented, 3PMSF-rated ATs I've got, and the very-much-not-pricepoint-oriented studded Nokians...and as expected, there's no comparison, but that's also comparing tires that are about $100/each different in price.
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Originally Posted by BlackBoost
I think that's also why so many Americans are happy with the Duratracs for winter when not many get colder than -20C. With my Winter Slaloms, I still get good grip with -30C and -40C. We've had those temps a few times the past couple winters. Truck and tires performed great
Ya we always seem to get a week or two between -30 and -40, makes me tempted to go with full winters but I also need to be able to travel through the 1-3' deep / hard pack drifts which these are great for. My bro-in-law went with true winters last year and he won't go places I will and I won't go places he will lol.
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These, https://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/tire...e-t-a-sport-lt, came out either last year or the year before, and I got a set for 20" rims. They do handle snow well, but have not driven in over 4" snow with them. I had Blizzaks and the traction between them was about par, but in deep snow, would much rather have the Blizzaks. I will see how they work on RWD this winter.


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