5.0 vs 3.5 Reliability
#191
EDIT: If you use crap filters, BOTH engines will be less reliable. How about that, SPOAT? Ha ha.
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#192
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Get back on topic. Read the thread title if you have any questions.
#193
No, it's the cam phaser. The Triton engines also had them. Cam phaser is what advances and retards the cam timing for your Variable Camshaft Timing (VCT). It works off of oil pressure, so if your vehicle has been sitting for hours or days a worn cam phaser will leak down. When you start the engine it will rattle until it regains oil pressure. At this point everything returns to normal.
#194
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No, it's the cam phaser. The Triton engines also had them. Cam phaser is what advances and retards the cam timing for your Variable Camshaft Timing (VCT). It works off of oil pressure, so if your vehicle has been sitting for hours or days a worn cam phaser will leak down. When you start the engine it will rattle until it regains oil pressure. At this point everything returns to normal.
The start up rattle that was in my 4.6 2v and 5.4 2v was due to the timing chain guides loosing pressure when sitting.
Similar problem though. Wonder if Ford will ever get timing chains figured out? Honda, Toyota, etc simply do not have these problems and yet Ford has them across every generation of OHC engines it seems.
#195
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To my knowledge, the Triton motors never had cam phasers or variable valve timing of any kind for that matter.
The start up rattle that was in my 4.6 2v and 5.4 2v was due to the timing chain guides loosing pressure when sitting.
Similar problem though. Wonder if Ford will ever get timing chains figured out? Honda, Toyota, etc simply do not have these problems and yet Ford has them across every generation of OHC engines it seems.
The start up rattle that was in my 4.6 2v and 5.4 2v was due to the timing chain guides loosing pressure when sitting.
Similar problem though. Wonder if Ford will ever get timing chains figured out? Honda, Toyota, etc simply do not have these problems and yet Ford has them across every generation of OHC engines it seems.
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#196
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The 3V 4.6 and 5.4 absolutely had cam phasers. As to your comment about Toyota and Honda and timing chains, Toyota uses belts on most of their engines to include the 5.7 in the Tundra. Ford isnt the only one that has timing chain issues, GM's 4 and 6 cylinder VVT engines are notoriously bad and I have personal experience with that. $1600 into my Malibu when it jumped time on me.
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#198
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The 3V 4.6 and 5.4 absolutely had cam phasers. As to your comment about Toyota and Honda and timing chains, Toyota uses belts on most of their engines to include the 5.7 in the Tundra. Ford isnt the only one that has timing chain issues, GM's 4 and 6 cylinder VVT engines are notoriously bad and I have personal experience with that. $1600 into my Malibu when it jumped time on me.
http://yourcarangel.com/2012/06/toyo...nd-chain-list/
#199
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The 5.7 in the Tundra has a chain:
http://yourcarangel.com/2012/06/toyo...nd-chain-list/
http://yourcarangel.com/2012/06/toyo...nd-chain-list/
#200
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I stand corrected on the 3v, but note that I went on to talk about 2v motors. Did the 2v motors have cam phasers? I ask because even those motors had timing chain related issues, but in those it was the guides.
Honda and Toyota both have some chain and some belt drive timing. My Honda is a chain with vtec and has just under 200k miles.
Honda and Toyota both have some chain and some belt drive timing. My Honda is a chain with vtec and has just under 200k miles.