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Old 12-23-2017, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by w00t692
Guess i need to go drive a 2.7 and see what you're talking about because yeah the 3.5 doesn't have any feeling of lag off idle, if i mash it i'm doing a burnout with the quickness lol.
Like most, I believe what he's confused with isn't turbo lag but the lag downshifting from 6th to 3rd etc... he mentions being stopped at a stop light and experiencing lag, but for a truck that does 0 - 60 in under 6 seconds there is clearly and virtually near zero turbo lag. I have owned two 2.7L trucks and a 5.0... night and day difference on acceleration with the 2.7 from any speeds, it's just significantly better.
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Old 12-23-2017, 10:27 AM
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Towing 7500 pounds.



I have the 2.7 and was gonna and a tuner but there isn't need. Son of a bitch has guts. As you can see in the videos just look at the tachometer towing those loads. No struggle there, not even close.
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Originally Posted by grayjaxx
Like most, I believe what he's confused with isn't turbo lag but the lag downshifting from 6th to 3rd etc... he mentions being stopped at a stop light and experiencing lag, but for a truck that does 0 - 60 in under 6 seconds there is clearly and virtually near zero turbo lag. I have owned two 2.7L trucks and a 5.0... night and day difference on acceleration with the 2.7 from any speeds, it's just significantly better.
Not confusing anything and I didn't say turbo lag, I said delay from idle to being on boost. Off the light the car is already at idle and in 1st, typically running with auto stop turned off. While no doubt gear shifting is a factor on the highway, the need for a shift comes from a lack of down low torque, so same same. I do play around a bit with manual shifting and now days when driving a small ECO in heavy traffic I switch over to manual shifting and keep the revs in the boost. Fixes the issue completely. The bigger motors have more torque way down low so require less delay for power. Doesn't matter if it is due to shifting or turbo lag. I do notice that the 2.7 when being manually shifted the throttle reaction is much quicker than the 5.0, but has little to do with the motor and is easily fixed with aftermarket hardware.

Edit: 0-60 times do not account for this delay. Times are set with brake application and throttle pushed to get the motor spooling. Keep in mind, I'm not talking about acceleration capability overall, just the annoying little delay to put the motor in the boost. It may not bother you, but it does me.

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Originally Posted by mikeinatlanta
Not confusing anything and I didn't say turbo lag, I said delay from idle to being on boost. Off the light the car is already at idle and in 1st, typically running with auto stop turned off. While no doubt gear shifting is a factor on the highway, the need for a shift comes from a lack of down low torque, so same same. I do play around a bit with manual shifting and now days when driving a small ECO in heavy traffic I switch over to manual shifting and keep the revs in the boost. Fixes the issue completely. The bigger motors have more torque way down low so require less delay for power. Doesn't matter if it is due to shifting or turbo lag. I do notice that the 2.7 when being manually shifted the throttle reaction is much quicker than the 5.0, but has little to do with the motor and is easily fixed with aftermarket hardware.

Edit: 0-60 times do not account for this delay. Times are set with brake application and throttle pushed to get the motor spooling. Keep in mind, I'm not talking about acceleration capability overall, just the annoying little delay to put the motor in the boost. It may not bother you, but it does me.
You may not have said turbo lag, so maybe you don't know what turbo lag is but what you're describing is turbo lag. Lol

I've only had 3.55 gears, so maybe you'e running lower gears, not sure... or you haven't changed the oil... or something else is wrong. Simply put, the 2.7 is the quickest of all the f150 motor offerings so whatever delay that's bothering you is in your head or overstated.
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So much 2.7L BS here, years down the road the 2.7L Ego Pushers will be saying how their trucks beat every dragster at the strip doing 6.2 seconds in the 1/4. "And poof, my truck that was 75 Hp down from other F150 engines, all of sudden was faster than anything on the road."

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It's almost as bad as your 5.0 bias.
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Originally Posted by Mike Up
So much 2.7L BS here, years down the road the 2.7L Ego Pushers will be saying how their trucks beat every dragster at the strip doing 6.2 seconds in the 1/4. "And poof, my truck that was 75 Hp down from other F150 engines, all of sudden was faster than anything on the road."

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My 2012 5.0 Lariat achieved 19.1mpg on the lie O meter over its 100,000 miles. My 2016 2.7 Lariat has achieved 22.2mpg on the lie O meter over its 18,500 miles in the same usage. The 2.7 is more energetic feeling in day to day driving. We’ll see how it does over the next few years but at this point I’ll take the 2.7.

I grew up on loud rock and roll, so I can’t hear. I have no issues with the 2.7’s noise and find the low speed low rpm growl pleasing.
When I hear it.....

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Originally Posted by grayjaxx
You may not have said turbo lag, so maybe you don't know what turbo lag is but what you're describing is turbo lag. Lol

I've only had 3.55 gears, so maybe you'e running lower gears, not sure... or you haven't changed the oil... or something else is wrong. Simply put, the 2.7 is the quickest of all the f150 motor offerings so whatever delay that's bothering you is in your head or overstated.
Sounds like maybe you don't know what turbo lag is. BTW, just had the rental out at lunch and I paid a bit more attention to the issue. I correct myself. It does in fact have turbo lag, slow shifting, and no power off boost. So yes, all three. I can tell that you aren't reading so carefully, I rent a lot of vehicles so get to have basically extended test drives on pretty much everything. As I first stated, this delay from hitting the gas to accelerating may not bother some or even most, but it does me. I suggest that you go to a dealership and score a drive in a new Tundra. Pay close attention to the off/on throttle transition. Once you have done that it will all make sense.

Even my WRX had some lag, but with a cable throttle and manual it wasn't nearly this bad. Some non turbo cars are so bad that puling into traffic is dangerous (new camry).
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I have a 2.7 and what i am most pleased with is more basic than the other concerns here: in 10k it has burned no oil..

I am no environmentalist either.. i just like the fact that the engine’s rings are sealing well. Motor is quiet when cold, no piston slap or chain tensioner noises...



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