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Old 11-18-2017, 11:18 AM
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That is so true. Diesels are work engines, they really don't belong in cars. This is why a lot of people who had them in city driving complained and shunned them. They either have to be torquing a heavy load, or going down the Interstate to be efficient, and they are only efficient when fully warmed up and working.
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Originally Posted by acdii
That is so true. Diesels are work engines, they really don't belong in cars. This is why a lot of people who had them in city driving complained and shunned them. They either have to be torquing a heavy load, or going down the Interstate to be efficient, and they are only efficient when fully warmed up and working.


Since everything seems to be 20 miles from me, and at least 10 of that on Interstate, I am interested.
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Originally Posted by Slowtrucker
Since everything seems to be 20 miles from me, and at least 10 of that on Interstate, I am interested.
Should work well for your type then. It's like that out here too. 55 out of the driveway. Drove an F350 daily for several years until fuel hit $130 a tank. Got really good fuel economy for a 4 ton truck, better than my F150 is getting.
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Originally Posted by acdii
That is so true. Diesels are work engines, they really don't belong in cars. This is why a lot of people who had them in city driving complained and shunned them. They either have to be torquing a heavy load, or going down the Interstate to be efficient, and they are only efficient when fully warmed up and working.
That's not true at all, there have been some really great diesel cars out there such as older mercedes benz and VW. All engines are only efficient when fully warmed up.
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I found with my 2 light duty diesels, they could warm up in bitter cold, but needed to run fairly fast or hard to do so. It is very hard to warm up in slow speed suburban or city conditions. Radiator screens help a little. Block heaters help warm up a lot. One engine had a thermostatically controlled heat pump to assist in warm up but with the price of higher fuel consumption. Jelling is a concern, but is manageable. Stay on top of your fuel when temperatures plummet to assure you are getting winter mix, and add anti-jell. Worst threat is during early season cold spells, when winter mix supply chain is incomplete.

Diesels need to run to run well, so if they aren't worked fairly hard, they may disappoint in bitter cold.
My brothers car had broken down in Bismark ND and we towed it back to minnesota. It was about -30 below, 7.3 diesel ran about 16 hours straight at highway speed pulling pulling a big trailer and car. I don't think it ever got above the freezing point of 32 degrees in the cab.
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This was not worthy of starting a new thread, but I did see 2 2018 F150's with the Powerstroke emblems on them yesterday morning on the way to the Flint Michigan airport on I-69 going north from Lansing. One was dark blue and the other silver, both had blue lettering in the back window and had the same lettering above the fuel cap that said diesel fuel only. I wish I could have gotten a picture but my cell phone was in my pocket and it was sleeting, not the time to try and get a pic. Both were driven by mature woman with 1 man in the lead truck. Maybe testing for Ford? Neat to see though.
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Originally Posted by sailorjerry
My brothers car had broken down in Bismark ND and we towed it back to minnesota. It was about -30 below, 7.3 diesel ran about 16 hours straight at highway speed pulling pulling a big trailer and car. I don't think it ever got above the freezing point of 32 degrees in the cab.
There was a simple fix for this, a 203* T-stat replacement. Did that the first year I had mine, never had a complaint about heat after that, no matter how cold it got. Had to install shut off valves to the heater core so I didn't roast in the summer as it would over power the AC.
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I look forward to seeing just how well they adjust the gear ratios for the new diesel - might have me looking to a 2019 with the diesel.

for the right commute it might just make good sense. Like the Ram Ecodiesel does for some.

I wonder if they will cross 30 mpg highway with it.
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Originally Posted by acdii
That is so true. Diesels are work engines, they really don't belong in cars. This is why a lot of people who had them in city driving complained and shunned them. They either have to be torquing a heavy load, or going down the Interstate to be efficient, and they are only efficient when fully warmed up and working.
In Europe we se it different. A Turbodiesel Engine is superior in any way over a non turbo petrol engine. You need a turbo petrol engine (like Ecoboost) to compete with a diesel engine. Petrol is only for small cheap city cars like fiesta and so on. Large petrol engines is only for sports and exotic cars. But the new alternative is electric.
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Horsepower sells vehicles, torque moves them. Until there are some actual specs all this is for nothing.

Personally I have owned a few ecos and am really tired of the problems associated with them. Maybe I got bad luck....I am gonna try a diesel next.
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