2018 5.0L - Engine Rattle Noise On Deceleration And/Or Acceleration ***TSB 18-2354***
02-12-2019, 04:31 AM
#631
im looking at Tundras also.. you couldnt give me another one of these F150s.
02-12-2019, 07:49 AM
#632
Yep. Funny you all say that. I’ll be going Toyota as well. Guess there’s a reason my pops never buys domestic. So disappointed in this whole thing. I bought Ford solely based on my past experiences with their vehicles. Hell, my truck in high school saved my life in a pretty bad accident, and I’ve never had any problems with them. Sadly, this will be my last Ford ever.
02-12-2019, 08:16 AM
#633
Yep. Funny you all say that. I’ll be going Toyota as well. Guess there’s a reason my pops never buys domestic. So disappointed in this whole thing. I bought Ford solely based on my past experiences with their vehicles. Hell, my truck in high school saved my life in a pretty bad accident, and I’ve never had any problems with them. Sadly, this will be my last Ford ever.
I tow a 9000lbs GVWR and 1100lbs tongue weight camper and the best I could find on crew cab was 1600lbs payload???
I have the rattle (don't bother me too much) and the transmission hard shifting(bothers me a lot) but my truck has 2700lbs of payload capacity, can tow up to 10900lbs and (except for the fore mentioned problems) drives like a big SUV.... What import can do that?
In a couple of years those problems would be solved and you will have a truck that no foreigner company can produce.
I'm not defending Ford but it is easier to keep quality when you set yourself to not offer many options (F150 have 54 versions), to not develop the latest technology (400lbft in a 5L engine?) and offer just above 1/2 the capability of the competition...
Last edited by RACarvalho; 02-12-2019 at 08:18 AM.
02-12-2019, 09:43 AM
#634
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i doubt ford is going to fix anything. Im going to try to dump my rattler in about another year or a little less. While it still has a good amount of warranty left. Im sure an engine rattle out of warranty isnt going to help the value. At least if it is noticed when i trade it in i can have the leverage of a factory warranty and Ford should fix it right???? Haha! Tired of dumb over complicated stuff. I might just find me a nice old chevy or something with a simple engine in it. Something that can be worked on by myself without too much BS. A LS engine would fit me just fine.
You need to visit the Chevrolet forums before you buy a Chevrolet thinking they are rock solid, silent motors. The LS has its share of noise issues. Verses the Chevrolet 5.3/6.2L...The Ford 5.0 is a better engine IMO.
As long as I dont drop off the throttle when cold my engine is silent. Once warm, no noises at all. Good power, smoooooth, decent mpg. I think the 5.0L is a great engine. I bet Ford never "fixes" the noise and sticks to "characteristic of the 5.0L"
As long as dependability and longevity are not affected, its not really that big of an issue.
02-12-2019, 10:08 AM
#635
I was looking at Tundras but their payload and towing capacity is ridiculous.
I tow a 9000lbs GVWR and 1100lbs tongue weight camper and the best I could find on crew cab was 1600lbs payload???
I have the rattle (don't bother me too much) and the transmission hard shifting(bothers me a lot) but my truck has 2700lbs of payload capacity, can tow up to 10900lbs and (except for the fore mentioned problems) drives like a big SUV.... What import can do that?
In a couple of years those problems would be solved and you will have a truck that no foreigner company can produce.
I'm not defending Ford but it is easier to keep quality when you set yourself to not offer many options (F150 have 54 versions), to not develop the latest technology (400lbft in a 5L engine?) and offer just above 1/2 the capability of the competition...
I tow a 9000lbs GVWR and 1100lbs tongue weight camper and the best I could find on crew cab was 1600lbs payload???
I have the rattle (don't bother me too much) and the transmission hard shifting(bothers me a lot) but my truck has 2700lbs of payload capacity, can tow up to 10900lbs and (except for the fore mentioned problems) drives like a big SUV.... What import can do that?
In a couple of years those problems would be solved and you will have a truck that no foreigner company can produce.
I'm not defending Ford but it is easier to keep quality when you set yourself to not offer many options (F150 have 54 versions), to not develop the latest technology (400lbft in a 5L engine?) and offer just above 1/2 the capability of the competition...
Phaser - VCTs and timing chains have been plaguing these engines for years. I dumped my 3.5 eco for that reason, timing chain rattles and I replaced it 3 times only to buy a 2018 5.0 that also rattles...FML!!! Would I run out and buy a Tundra, I don't know but I sure wish I would have found this info before I dumped a bunch of money on another F150 that is full of problems.
I'm not going to get my hopes up that Ford will do anything to resolve this issue. They can't even design a door that functions in the cold!
02-12-2019, 10:18 AM
#636
The F150 is Fords bread and butter and they can't afford to **** the customer that much.
As of today, for the weights that I tow, if its not the F150 with HDPP, I would have to go for a 1 ton truck (some 3/4 ton versions have less payload than my truck) ...
So to me, Tundras will never work...
As of today, for the weights that I tow, if its not the F150 with HDPP, I would have to go for a 1 ton truck (some 3/4 ton versions have less payload than my truck) ...
So to me, Tundras will never work...
02-12-2019, 10:34 AM
#637
The F150 is Fords bread and butter and they can't afford to **** the customer that much.
As of today, for the weights that I tow, if its not the F150 with HDPP, I would have to go for a 1 ton truck (some 3/4 ton versions have less payload than my truck) ...
So to me, Tundras will never work...
As of today, for the weights that I tow, if its not the F150 with HDPP, I would have to go for a 1 ton truck (some 3/4 ton versions have less payload than my truck) ...
So to me, Tundras will never work...
Theres a **** ton of 5.0 F150s and Mustangs with this rattle issue.
I also see a **** ton of 2018s still on lots with lots of advertising on them.
The frozen doors and locks are still prevalent on the 2018s and I suspect will also be on the 2019s along with 5.0 engine rattles.
The Toyotas are pretty but not useful. The GMs are bust cuz they all going to Mexico and I can't support a company that would close a bunch of plants and do that.
Nissan is too $$ and in same boat as Toyota...whats left? Ram? I guess its more of a situation of whats has the least amount of problems and can get the job done.
02-12-2019, 10:49 AM
#638
I have worked in the automotive market for 22 years now and one of the sins that most of the companies are doing these days is that all of them want to increase the amount of tech. in their offer so, they think, they can increase the price and profit of their products but they try to do that using the same amount of resources (people,equipment and money) that they used to spend to validate and test...
You don't need to be a genius to figure out that the testing of a 10 speed transmission requires way more effort , money and time than a 6 speed transmission but the leadership don't see that way... Only the program to run that 10 speed is probably twice or more the size of the 6 speed and all needs time and $ for validation and testing...
It is obviously that the validation work was not performed properly, therefore the products and problems we get...
You add to that the mindset of most of the companies that an engineer is an engineer and it doesn't matter if the person came from Detroit or Mumbai.... and you have a big mess.... The guy from Mumbai may be even better qualified in the paper but if he never drove an automatic transmission in his life, he doesn't have the life experience to foresee problems.... Then you have latches that freeze and transmissions that can't switch gears properly....
If you went to college driving a beatup automatic transmission, you learned something about it that you will carry for the rest of your life... The guy that went to college driving a moped didn't have the same experience.... this is my 2c on what I see today...
Last edited by RACarvalho; 02-12-2019 at 10:51 AM.
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02-12-2019, 11:11 AM
#639
It is their bread and butter which is why I'm at a loss to understand why a little more effort isn't being put forth to fix many of the problems on these trucks.
Theres a **** ton of 5.0 F150s and Mustangs with this rattle issue.
I also see a **** ton of 2018s still on lots with lots of advertising on them.
The frozen doors and locks are still prevalent on the 2018s and I suspect will also be on the 2019s along with 5.0 engine rattles.
The Toyotas are pretty but not useful. The GMs are bust cuz they all going to Mexico and I can't support a company that would close a bunch of plants and do that.
Nissan is too $$ and in same boat as Toyota...whats left? Ram? I guess its more of a situation of whats has the least amount of problems and can get the job done.
Theres a **** ton of 5.0 F150s and Mustangs with this rattle issue.
I also see a **** ton of 2018s still on lots with lots of advertising on them.
The frozen doors and locks are still prevalent on the 2018s and I suspect will also be on the 2019s along with 5.0 engine rattles.
The Toyotas are pretty but not useful. The GMs are bust cuz they all going to Mexico and I can't support a company that would close a bunch of plants and do that.
Nissan is too $$ and in same boat as Toyota...whats left? Ram? I guess its more of a situation of whats has the least amount of problems and can get the job done.
I’m with the ecorattle group and now the dang frozen doors and whatever else is on the list. Would have jumped ship to Tundra already, at this rate I could overlook the terrible fuel mileage, would be good if tundra had better payload.
02-12-2019, 01:03 PM
#640
You need to visit the Chevrolet forums before you buy a Chevrolet thinking they are rock solid, silent motors. The LS has its share of noise issues. Verses the Chevrolet 5.3/6.2L...The Ford 5.0 is a better engine IMO.
As long as I dont drop off the throttle when cold my engine is silent. Once warm, no noises at all. Good power, smoooooth, decent mpg. I think the 5.0L is a great engine. I bet Ford never "fixes" the noise and sticks to "characteristic of the 5.0L"
As long as dependability and longevity are not affected, its not really that big of an issue.
As long as I dont drop off the throttle when cold my engine is silent. Once warm, no noises at all. Good power, smoooooth, decent mpg. I think the 5.0L is a great engine. I bet Ford never "fixes" the noise and sticks to "characteristic of the 5.0L"
As long as dependability and longevity are not affected, its not really that big of an issue.