2018-2019 f150 auto start stop Mess FIX!!
09-06-2018, 01:21 PM
#101
If the issue is that you're upset that someone is disparaging your attempts at having a technical discussion, then please understand that this is a public internet forum and as such is not bound by the rules of "do not post here unless you have something constructive to add to the technical discussion" -- now if you post a how-to, and want it kept clean, we will close the thread as soon as the how-to is done.
Unfortunately this is the manner of internet forums, in general. You will be engaged, you will need to defend your position or ignore the detractors, and if they become offensive or trollish, then they will be removed and the thread will be cleaned. Disagreeing with your thread is not, in any way, shape, or form, a reason to remove their posts from a thread.
If you feel as though I have made this, an error in judgement, please appeal to the other moderators. However, at this time, this is still a discussion, and people are allowed their dissenting opinions. Those dissenting opinions have, historically, allowed for a more robust discussion and have even changed hearts and minds at times.
The reminder to keep it civil goes both ways, both in agreement and in disagreement. It takes all kinds of people to make a forum work, those who don't care about certain things and those who do, in this case you have some who are voicing their opinions on why you shouldn't care, and you have politely reminded them why you do. If there is further discussion on why your views are incorrect, and it's a personal attack, it will be dealt with, otherwise it is simply forum chatter. This is a public forum, and there are certain rules of decorum and etiquette that must be followed. Complaints are taken seriously and are adjudicated as such, however no rules have been broken here.
I am monitoring the thread for actual threats to our forum rules, but until such time that I find them, I can't just ***** nilly remove posts or users.
Thanks for your consideration on my judgement call. Being questioned is, after all, a way to improve one's own judgement, and I'm not being facetious with that statement. It is truly meant.
Unfortunately this is the manner of internet forums, in general. You will be engaged, you will need to defend your position or ignore the detractors, and if they become offensive or trollish, then they will be removed and the thread will be cleaned. Disagreeing with your thread is not, in any way, shape, or form, a reason to remove their posts from a thread.
If you feel as though I have made this, an error in judgement, please appeal to the other moderators. However, at this time, this is still a discussion, and people are allowed their dissenting opinions. Those dissenting opinions have, historically, allowed for a more robust discussion and have even changed hearts and minds at times.
The reminder to keep it civil goes both ways, both in agreement and in disagreement. It takes all kinds of people to make a forum work, those who don't care about certain things and those who do, in this case you have some who are voicing their opinions on why you shouldn't care, and you have politely reminded them why you do. If there is further discussion on why your views are incorrect, and it's a personal attack, it will be dealt with, otherwise it is simply forum chatter. This is a public forum, and there are certain rules of decorum and etiquette that must be followed. Complaints are taken seriously and are adjudicated as such, however no rules have been broken here.
I am monitoring the thread for actual threats to our forum rules, but until such time that I find them, I can't just ***** nilly remove posts or users.
Thanks for your consideration on my judgement call. Being questioned is, after all, a way to improve one's own judgement, and I'm not being facetious with that statement. It is truly meant.
09-06-2018, 01:21 PM
#102
How about everyone act like an adult and move on with stuff you don't want to read? Too difficult? If someone pops on a thread and sees a bunch of stuff they don't agree with, don't be surprised if they chime in. I promise you can find a thread about people liking the StartStop and there are plenty of posts about everything that is "wrong" with it. Wait until you find out some people drink Pepsi and some people Drink Coke.
09-06-2018, 02:10 PM
#104
Senior Member
Late to party
it would seem that no matter your opinion on the *** feature, there are ways to disable it without unplugging something. On my display there is an option to disable the feature or there is always the FORScan route. And for those than can’t do those then just unplug as shown in post 1 as the person was trying to share information from the start.
09-06-2018, 02:17 PM
#105
Senior Member
It's true that FORScan can disable A-S/S. It is now confirmed that also shuts off the BMS.
It's also true that it can be shut off via a dash switch. That lasts one ignition cycle.
The holy grail here is a permanent shutdown of the system that leaves BMS operational.
At this point, we don't know if the plug removal in post #1 accomplishes this.
The search continues...
It's also true that it can be shut off via a dash switch. That lasts one ignition cycle.
The holy grail here is a permanent shutdown of the system that leaves BMS operational.
At this point, we don't know if the plug removal in post #1 accomplishes this.
The search continues...
09-06-2018, 02:37 PM
#106
Senior Member
It's true that FORScan can disable A-S/S. It is now confirmed that also shuts off the BMS.
It's also true that it can be shut off via a dash switch. That lasts one ignition cycle.
The holy grail here is a permanent shutdown of the system that leaves BMS operational.
At this point, we don't know if the plug removal in post #1 accomplishes this.
The search continues...
It's also true that it can be shut off via a dash switch. That lasts one ignition cycle.
The holy grail here is a permanent shutdown of the system that leaves BMS operational.
At this point, we don't know if the plug removal in post #1 accomplishes this.
The search continues...
09-06-2018, 03:54 PM
#107
it would seem that no matter your opinion on the *** feature, there are ways to disable it without unplugging something. On my display there is an option to disable the feature or there is always the FORScan route. And for those than can’t do those then just unplug as shown in post 1 as the person was trying to share information from the start.
EDIT: Disabling in ForScan disables the BMS, and side effects of disconnecting the plug are still unknown. Determining a way with no ill effect is kind of the whole point of this thread.
2nd EDIT My module is due in next week. I'll post as soon as I get it installed. Price is a hundred bucks, but if it keeps everything functional including the switch I'll consider it money well spent. I like having the option of turning it on when in traffic.
Last edited by mikeinatlanta; 09-06-2018 at 04:04 PM.
09-06-2018, 04:38 PM
#109
Senior Member
09-06-2018, 04:48 PM
#110
In the case of the module I have coming, it simply activates the switch for you at each startup, so nothing is being disabled or broken. All systems, to include *** , remain fully functional.