2017 Ford F150 3.5L Ecoboost Gas Mileage
02-13-2018, 09:24 PM
#71
Ok that's some good info. So if I understand correctly gearing and trim and options (weight) are not accounted for in the EPA numbers. I didn't see cab/bed as a variable either.....unless payload or GVRW reflects that. I can see how Ford could work the system with there being a such a huge difference in models available. But it seems like there is something missing here. If I recall correctly manufacturers have been penalized for unreasonable ratings before and I don't think Ford would want to invite that by missing badly.
To get costs down, Ford has to commit to a set amount of items, like for example moonroofs, they have to commit to so many to get the price, so they are part of the allotment sent to dealers. Ford will allot a set amount of trucks that "meet" EPA numbers at the beginning of the year. Those will be distributed among dealers nationwide. Once those have been "sold" then the rest of the year can be trucks that wont ever see EPA, because they are too heavy, optioned to the gills, etc.
It's a game all auto makers play.
02-13-2018, 09:53 PM
#72
Senior Member
I know they are realistic numbers. My point is, Ford Clearly states it will get 23 mpg hwy. That is an out an out lie. I have kept it at 65 mph for 500 miles, with 93 octane and barley got 20 mpg.
The MPG claim is part of why I went Ford vice GMC Denali. My last two GMC with 6.0 V8 motors, 4x4 crew cabs got what GMC claimed for hwy MPG. So if it held true for 2017, the Denali I was looking at would get 2 mpg better than this truck with a motor almost twice the size and a 6 speed transmission. My old GMC got 1 mpg less then my new F-150, but was rated for 4 less mpg then the new truck.
I too try to conserve fuel. Ford should have to back up their claims or put a more accurate number on the window sticker. Hwy mpg on the window sticker should be 19 mpg.
The MPG claim is part of why I went Ford vice GMC Denali. My last two GMC with 6.0 V8 motors, 4x4 crew cabs got what GMC claimed for hwy MPG. So if it held true for 2017, the Denali I was looking at would get 2 mpg better than this truck with a motor almost twice the size and a 6 speed transmission. My old GMC got 1 mpg less then my new F-150, but was rated for 4 less mpg then the new truck.
I too try to conserve fuel. Ford should have to back up their claims or put a more accurate number on the window sticker. Hwy mpg on the window sticker should be 19 mpg.
We just got back from a trip and the hand calculated mileage for the 400 round trip was 23.9 MPG and the dash readout said 24.8.
I set the cruise control at 60 mph and let it run.
There were times when the dash "graph" was showing right at 30 mpg.
The last 120 miles or so was into a head wind of 8-10 mph so it might could have been a little better.
02-14-2018, 02:35 AM
#73
Senior Member
EPA ratings are not real life ratings and are not calculated the same way. Do your research.
https://www.epa.gov/fueleconomy/basi...onomy-labeling
Best MPG I had with my 2017 3.5EB SuperCrew 157'' wheelbase 4x4 with 20'' wheels and A/T tires was 20.5 (90% highway). Pretty sure it can do 23-24 on highway, but that would be 99% highway driving - the 1% remaining would be a quick exit to a truck stop and a fuelup.
Best way to conserve fuel is to not hear that turbo spooling.
https://www.epa.gov/fueleconomy/basi...onomy-labeling
Best MPG I had with my 2017 3.5EB SuperCrew 157'' wheelbase 4x4 with 20'' wheels and A/T tires was 20.5 (90% highway). Pretty sure it can do 23-24 on highway, but that would be 99% highway driving - the 1% remaining would be a quick exit to a truck stop and a fuelup.
Best way to conserve fuel is to not hear that turbo spooling.
So why would my GMC truck, a Denali crew cab 4x4 get the EPA rated mileage on the Hwy at 70 mph and my Ford won't?
Why will my wife's Range Rover get the EPA rated mileage on the Hwy and my Ford won't?
Why will my 14 Stingray get better than the EPA rated mileage at 80 mph and my Ford Cant get with in 3 mpg of the rated, going 5 under?
Just saying, this is the First Truck or SUV or car that I have not been able to get even close to the rated mileage out of.
Last I checked our interstate system which are Hwys is posted at 70 mph. Not safe to try to drive 55 mph on the hwy.
I agree it is a truck. Sad thing is my last truck a 6.2L GMC Denali, crew cab 4x4 got the rated MPG. Not only that, it got better mpg than this 3.5 Ecoboost which is rated to get 3 miles to the gallon better than the GMC.
So it is reasonable for me to expect this new truck, with a 10 speed vice a 6 speed, a smaller engine, a lighter truck would get better mpg. GMC rated 20 mpg Hwy, Ford rated 23 mpg. Yet it does not get better, it gets worse.
Yep it is a First world problem, but I do not live in a third world country. I expect a product I purchase to be able to do what the manufacture claims it will do.
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02-14-2018, 09:41 AM
#75
Senior Member
I have the start and stop feature but not sure if it helps. I'm not impressed with the mileage of this 70k vehicle. I was going to be a Range Rover Sport but opted for the F150 with all the improvements since my 2012. My 5.0 liter had better mileage. So what can I do here?
Thanks in Advance,
Cole
Thanks in Advance,
Cole
02-14-2018, 09:57 AM
#76
Senior Member
I have the start and stop feature but not sure if it helps. I'm not impressed with the mileage of this 70k vehicle. I was going to be a Range Rover Sport but opted for the F150 with all the improvements since my 2012. My 5.0 liter had better mileage. So what can I do here?
Thanks in Advance,
Cole
Thanks in Advance,
Cole
Next, your type of driving. Get on a flat stretch of highway a couple of miles long on a non-windy day. Reset your mpg. Set your cruise on 90kph and drive a measured mile or two and note your mpg. Reset again, up to 97, then again at 105, then again at 113. You should see notable differences as your speed climbs.
In addition, your say "city/hwy". If that's 80% highway you're going to get a different result than if it's 80% city. My city has long stretches before I hit a traffic light, with 45mph speed limits. I get very different mpg than someone driving in Chicago or Detroit.
Lastly, style. Every time you kick those turbos in your mpg dives. Avoid that as much as possible.
02-14-2018, 10:00 AM
#77
Senior Member
So I will try that. I am in PEI so its mostly highway driving as we don't have a large city 
I really expected to get around 18 city/20 highway in MPG
I'm in Canada so the truck is in liters per/100 kms
I really expected to get around 18 city/20 highway in MPG
I'm in Canada so the truck is in liters per/100 kms
Your 18 converts to 13mpg. Part of that is a 2-3 mpg drop due to winter gas and cold temps. So, your summer should be closer to 14 - 15 liters per 100km.
Next, your type of driving. Get on a flat stretch of highway a couple of miles long on a non-windy day. Reset your mpg. Set your cruise on 90kph and drive a measured mile or two and note your mpg. Reset again, up to 97, then again at 105, then again at 113. You should see notable differences as your speed climbs.
In addition, your say "city/hwy". If that's 80% highway you're going to get a different result than if it's 80% city. My city has long stretches before I hit a traffic light, with 45mph speed limits. I get very different mpg than someone driving in Chicago or Detroit.
Lastly, style. Every time you kick those turbos in your mpg dives. Avoid that as much as possible.
Next, your type of driving. Get on a flat stretch of highway a couple of miles long on a non-windy day. Reset your mpg. Set your cruise on 90kph and drive a measured mile or two and note your mpg. Reset again, up to 97, then again at 105, then again at 113. You should see notable differences as your speed climbs.
In addition, your say "city/hwy". If that's 80% highway you're going to get a different result than if it's 80% city. My city has long stretches before I hit a traffic light, with 45mph speed limits. I get very different mpg than someone driving in Chicago or Detroit.
Lastly, style. Every time you kick those turbos in your mpg dives. Avoid that as much as possible.
02-15-2018, 03:16 AM
#78
I did a over 500 mile trip at 65 mph, 5 below the speed limit Barely got 20 mpg hand calculated. I'm in a 100% stock truck and tires.
So why would my GMC truck, a Denali crew cab 4x4 get the EPA rated mileage on the Hwy at 70 mph and my Ford won't?
Why will my wife's Range Rover get the EPA rated mileage on the Hwy and my Ford won't?
Why will my 14 Stingray get better than the EPA rated mileage at 80 mph and my Ford Cant get with in 3 mpg of the rated, going 5 under?
Just saying, this is the First Truck or SUV or car that I have not been able to get even close to the rated mileage out of.
Barely, mileage.
Last I checked our interstate system which are Hwys is posted at 70 mph. Not safe to try to drive 55 mph on the hwy.
I agree it is a truck. Sad thing is my last truck a 6.2L GMC Denali, crew cab 4x4 got the rated MPG. Not only that, it got better mpg than this 3.5 Ecoboost which is rated to get 3 miles to the gallon better than the GMC.
So it is reasonable for me to expect this new truck, with a 10 speed vice a 6 speed, a smaller engine, a lighter truck would get better mpg. GMC rated 20 mpg Hwy, Ford rated 23 mpg. Yet it does not get better, it gets worse.
Yep it is a First world problem, but I do not live in a third world country. I expect a product I purchase to be able to do what the manufacture claims it will do.
So why would my GMC truck, a Denali crew cab 4x4 get the EPA rated mileage on the Hwy at 70 mph and my Ford won't?
Why will my wife's Range Rover get the EPA rated mileage on the Hwy and my Ford won't?
Why will my 14 Stingray get better than the EPA rated mileage at 80 mph and my Ford Cant get with in 3 mpg of the rated, going 5 under?
Just saying, this is the First Truck or SUV or car that I have not been able to get even close to the rated mileage out of.
Barely, mileage.
Last I checked our interstate system which are Hwys is posted at 70 mph. Not safe to try to drive 55 mph on the hwy.
I agree it is a truck. Sad thing is my last truck a 6.2L GMC Denali, crew cab 4x4 got the rated MPG. Not only that, it got better mpg than this 3.5 Ecoboost which is rated to get 3 miles to the gallon better than the GMC.
So it is reasonable for me to expect this new truck, with a 10 speed vice a 6 speed, a smaller engine, a lighter truck would get better mpg. GMC rated 20 mpg Hwy, Ford rated 23 mpg. Yet it does not get better, it gets worse.
Yep it is a First world problem, but I do not live in a third world country. I expect a product I purchase to be able to do what the manufacture claims it will do.
02-15-2018, 08:52 AM
#79
Senior Member
This is the mileage I expected. Can we all start a petition and go to Ford? I'm not happy when the tank is over 130 liters.....
There has to be something I can do.......
There has to be something I can do.......
We just got back from a trip and the hand calculated mileage for the 400 round trip was 23.9 MPG and the dash readout said 24.8.
I set the cruise control at 60 mph and let it run.
There were times when the dash "graph" was showing right at 30 mpg.
The last 120 miles or so was into a head wind of 8-10 mph so it might could have been a little better.
I set the cruise control at 60 mph and let it run.
There were times when the dash "graph" was showing right at 30 mpg.
The last 120 miles or so was into a head wind of 8-10 mph so it might could have been a little better.
02-15-2018, 11:27 AM
#80
If you own it for 100,000 that's about maybe $1500 extra in fuel compared to the rated numbers. If we all join in a class action suit, after lawyer fees we could get $100 back LOL.
