2017 F150 10 speed problems
03-01-2017, 08:04 PM
#11
Don't have a 17 myself, but my 16 feels a bit thunky and jerky compared to how I remember my 07 being. I'm not worried about it, but there is something there that jerks in these trucks (both when coming to a stop and then initially starting) and it's probably normal. - That is not toward the OP, but to maybe help ease the minds of the couple of posters above me.
I had an 07. Those trucks were meant to shift so smooth you couldn't feel it. I bought a programmer to firm them up and make them faster so I wouldn't burn up clutches.
03-01-2017, 08:21 PM
#12
Some of the new 10 speeds will have issues period. Just like any vehicle will. There are some raptor owners that have a issue yes, but there are way more that do not. When for did all the media reviews and drives these trucks worked great. Not every truck and component can be built perfect. I do hope that ford takes care of the issues really quick for everyone. Mines coming next month, im keeping my fingers crossed.
03-01-2017, 08:31 PM
#14
Not downing Ford but an all new engine paired with an all new transmission is a recipe for disaster. I would say the same thing if it was a Tundra. The six speed works really well and doesn't seem to be in need of additional ratios. A ZF engineer was quoted saying that all of their research indicates that 8 speeds is the most ratios you can use without excessive gear hunting. They built the 9 speed transmission out of customers wanting better fuel economy.
The 10 speed is a joint venture with GM but GM only uses it in the Camaro SS as far as I know. They are phasing their RWD 8 speed transmission into their trucks.
The 10 speed is a joint venture with GM but GM only uses it in the Camaro SS as far as I know. They are phasing their RWD 8 speed transmission into their trucks.
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03-01-2017, 09:17 PM
#16
Not downing Ford but an all new engine paired with an all new transmission is a recipe for disaster. I would say the same thing if it was a Tundra. The six speed works really well and doesn't seem to be in need of additional ratios. A ZF engineer was quoted saying that all of their research indicates that 8 speeds is the most ratios you can use without excessive gear hunting. They built the 9 speed transmission out of customers wanting better fuel economy.
The 10 speed is a joint venture with GM but GM only uses it in the Camaro SS as far as I know. They are phasing their RWD 8 speed transmission into their trucks.
The 10 speed is a joint venture with GM but GM only uses it in the Camaro SS as far as I know. They are phasing their RWD 8 speed transmission into their trucks.
It does have the occasional lumpy-feeling shift at suburban speeds, tooling along at 30-50 with changes from part-throttle acceleration to coasting, etc. Nothing that's bothersome so far, just things I notice because I'm paying closer attention while I learn its behavior.
03-01-2017, 09:18 PM
#17
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Not downing Ford but an all new engine paired with an all new transmission is a recipe for disaster. I would say the same thing if it was a Tundra. The six speed works really well and doesn't seem to be in need of additional ratios. A ZF engineer was quoted saying that all of their research indicates that 8 speeds is the most ratios you can use without excessive gear hunting. They built the 9 speed transmission out of customers wanting better fuel economy.
The 10 speed is a joint venture with GM but GM only uses it in the Camaro SS as far as I know. They are phasing their RWD 8 speed transmission into their trucks.
The 10 speed is a joint venture with GM but GM only uses it in the Camaro SS as far as I know. They are phasing their RWD 8 speed transmission into their trucks.
03-01-2017, 10:52 PM
#19
So far I've nothing to complain about... hand-calculated 18 mpg on my first tank in mixed driving (my '07 only got 18 a couple of times on the highway!) and DAMN it's a nice truck.
As I mentioned, it has had a few less-refined shifts in challenging conditions, low-speed suburban traffic with stop lights, etc. That's the only questionable trait I've seen in the 10-spd but I don't have many miles yet.
03-01-2017, 11:55 PM
#20
The truck is a special order Limited, I believe from the Dearborne plant. I received it around Jan 5th. The current mileage is 1,260 so this problem started around the 1,000 mile mark. To clarify, it is not slow to engage, it flat out won't engage. before i took it in for service I almost called a tow truck, but after the 50th start it worked... i would say it sounds like a programming issue, but the noise from the transmission is concerning... I hope this is a one off issue...
My brother recently purchased a new honda CRV and they had a run of transmissions that they forgot to fill with fluid.
Anyway the 6R80 is quite a complex valve body and honestly the 10R80 scares me quite a bit. I worked for a company building a prototype transmission for the JLTV that replaced the Humvee and I must say the 10R80 is going to be a guinea pig for quite a while, its just the way it is.