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Hi , I am new to the forum and this is my first post. I currently drive a Toyota Tundra 1794 edition 2015. Last weekend I stopped by the local ford dealership and I saw a F 150 that really caught my eye. A gray platinum with the off road package and the 3.5 L ecoboost, with Bruneill( off dark brown leather). I took the truck for a test drive and was very impressed. It has all the options I could ever want and the ecoboost seems very fast. The only thing I missed was the sound of a naturally aspirated v-8. Coming from the tundra, which is a naturally aspirated V-8 and the fact that I have a TRD exhaust on the truck, the sound is fantastic. Other than the sound, l like the f 150 better, as far as comparing truck to truck. Although I was caught off guard as to the resale value of the tundra. After discounts in 2015 I paid $ 47,000.00 for the tundra before taxes. The ford dealer gave me $ 36,000.00 on trade. That's 76 percent retained value after 2.5 years and 34,000 miles. Wow ! I thought that was very impressive. The f 150 platinum lists for $ 65,000.00, and the price they gave me before taxes was $ 56,270.00.
I guess the questions I have is:
1) is this a good price on the platinum. Are they giving me a good discount.
2) is there any way to make the exhaust sound louder thru ford or a good reputable aftermarket, that won't void the warranty.
3) is there anybody else here that has come from a tundra to a f 150, and are you happy ?
4) how is the resale value on f 150's compared to tundra's.
5) are people that have gone from a naturally aspirated v-8 and into a 3.5 L ecoboost happy.
Any response or help would greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Hi , I am new to the forum and this is my first post. I currently drive a Toyota Tundra 1794 edition 2015. Last weekend I stopped by the local ford dealership and I saw a F 150 that really caught my eye. A gray platinum with the off road package and the 3.5 L ecoboost, with Bruneill( off dark brown leather). I took the truck for a test drive and was very impressed. It has all the options I could ever want and the ecoboost seems very fast. The only thing I missed was the sound of a naturally aspirated v-8. Coming from the tundra, which is a naturally aspirated V-8 and the fact that I have a TRD exhaust on the truck, the sound is fantastic. Other than the sound, l like the f 150 better, as far as comparing truck to truck. Although I was caught off guard as to the resale value of the tundra. After discounts in 2015 I paid $ 47,000.00 for the tundra before taxes. The ford dealer gave me $ 36,000.00 on trade. That's 76 percent retained value after 2.5 years and 34,000 miles. Wow ! I thought that was very impressive. The f 150 platinum lists for $ 65,000.00, and the price they gave me before taxes was $ 56,270.00.
I guess the questions I have is:
1) is this a good price on the platinum. Are they giving me a good discount.
2) is there any way to make the exhaust sound louder thru ford or a good reputable aftermarket, that won't void the warranty.
3) is there anybody else here that has come from a tundra to a f 150, and are you happy ?
4) how is the resale value on f 150's compared to tundra's.
5) are people that have gone from a naturally aspirated v-8 and into a 3.5 L ecoboost happy.
Any response or help would greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Welcome to the forum. I'll comment on #3 and #5. Up until trading in on my 2016 F150 Lariat last year, all I drove was Toyota trucks (Tacomas and a Tundra). And honestly I haven't looked back. The 3 areas of differentiation that sold me and continue to sell me are: 1) Aluminum body 2) EcoBoost engines 3) In Vehicle Technology.
I had a 2010 Rock Warrior with the TRD exhaust and personally do not miss the "v8 sound" at all. The quite cabin of the F150 is really welcomed. On this topic It's all personal preference.
As far as the 5.7 compared to my 2.7EB? I would have a hard time going back to a NA engine. Incredibly and surprisingly that little EB tows my 12' enclosed snowmobile trailer much better than the Tundra with the 4.30 rearend ever did - That lowend torque just can't be beat IMO. Overall, better performance and significantly better mpg than my tundra.
Good luck in your decision. I would do multiple test drives and continue to seek feedback from others.
Last edited by MNSportsman; 04-28-2017 at 12:41 PM.
Never owned a Toyota but did have one for a company truck. I'll take a Ford any day. I've owned a lot of different cars & trucks over the years & my 17 F150 FX4 3.5 EB is the fastest & quietest. I don't miss the V8 sound at all. Had the dealer turn off the canned in engine sound before I took the truck.
My son is driving my 1st Tundra. A 2005 model crew cab 2wd. It's just over 190,000 miles and has been an amazingly rock solid reliable vehicle. Gas mileage sucks somewhat though.
I switched to Ford's after my next truck though, a 2006 Tundra, when Toyota decided you didn't need a 6.5' bed and a crew cab in the same vehicle.
I started with a 157" wb 2012 Lariat with the 5.0 and had over 100,000 miles of "nearly" dealership free driving while I had it. They did have to squirt some blue grease into the driveshaft once to cure a "slip-bump", just before the warranty ran out. Nothing else.
Back in January I traded the 12 in on a leftover 2016 157" wb Lariat with the 2.7. I've been impressed so far and currently, with just under 5000 miles on the odometer, the lie-o-meter is showing an average of 21.6mpg overall.
I'm happy with my Ford after owning 2 Tundras.
3) is there anybody else here that has come from a tundra to a f 150, and are you happy ?
5) are people that have gone from a naturally aspirated v-8 and into a 3.5 L ecoboost happy.
3. I came from an 09 CrewMax and a 13 Double Cab to a 14 Ecoboost then a 15 5.0. I loved both of my Tundras and loved the power of the 5.7. When I had the Tundra, I would sometimes peek in the windows of F150's (in parking lots) and comment to my wife how much nicer the F150's were inside. The Tundra just never seemed to get over the cheaper type of look inside where the 150's just looked classy in there.
Other than that and the way the bed bounced on concrete highways, I absolutely loved both Tundras but I don't think I'd go back to them.
5. When I test drove my 14 3.5 I was trading in my 13 5.7...I told the sales guy that I wanted to feel the same type of power my Tundra had. I'm not much of an engine guy so I don't know different types of feelings when WOT but I was impressed with the way the 3.5 picked up. I didn't like the lag it had when you stepped on it especially compared to the Tundra where there was zero lag time on the pedal.
I have Toyota products (not tundra); and, I have them because they are known to be reliable and hold value reasonably well.
On the F150 vs. Tundra:
1) You will not hold value in your F150 as well as the Tundra. Supply / Demand at work here....Ford sells something close to 600k F150's alone each year. Toyota is barely at 100k units per annum. If someone is looking for a Tundra, they're willing to pay more.
Advantage Toyota
2) Sound: Dunno how old you are - but, believe me....there will come a time when the silence of the F150 is damn near nirvana. I left a Lexus sedan for the F150 and the F150 is quieter.
Advantage: no contest - personal preference. After market exhaust will not void your warranty
3) Your deal: $56 is "ok" - you can likely do a little better especially if you wait until later in the summer when the 18's come out. Of course - you'll then want the 18 2.7l with the 10spd By my estimate, you're within $1500 of a GREAT deal on that trim package.
4) Tundra Vs. F150 - this is is a smack down. The F150 out-"trucks" the Tundra in every department. The Tundra is a decade old in design and interior electronics. Toyota will need a major re-design to come close to competing. That is at least 2 years out.
5) The 3.5l is incredible. I'm getting 19.x MPG in combined driving...and there is gobs and gobs of power.
6) Given the huge number of F150s sold - all the market products go Ford first...common sense.
7) You didn't mention this - but "Wheel Wells" - the Tundra's are small and require a huge lift to get big tires. The F150 can do a 34'' - 35'' tire with a 2.5'' spacer level.
I really doubt you'll be disappointed in the switch. Please keep us posted.
Invoice on that Platinum is going to be around $59500, dealer holdback around $1975 so target around $57500 then subtract rebates.
I bought mine a month ago for $55,500.
(White Platinum, Max Trailer Tow, Park Assist, FX4, Twin Panel Moonroof, 701A, Ecoboost, 10 speed, Window Tint & Dent Warranty from dealer)
You can calculate your invoice price using the info on this forum.
Base x .93
Options x .92
Dealer Holdback is 3%
Subtract Ford rebates and that's your target price.
Wow. I just want to say thank you to everybody that has given me some excellent advice and information on this f150forum in a very short amount of time. I have been on a few forums and the members on this forum seem to be the most polite, professional, and most responsive.
And it is great to actually be able to talk to truck owners who have actually made the switch from the tundra to the f 150. I originally bought the tundra because of reliability, resale value, and the build quality. Along with that I really like the looks and interior of the 1794 edition is very nice. The comfort of the seats is amazing. Although in saying all this the F 150 platinum really impresses me even more ! I have to admit ford really hit a home run with the f 150 from 2015 to present.
And after this past presidential election I have decided to make a commitment to purchase as much of my purchases as possible to be products made in the U.S.A.. And my family has always been a ford family.
Welcome to the forum. I'll comment on #3 and #5. Up until trading in on my 2016 F150 Lariat last year, all I drove was Toyota trucks (Tacomas and a Tundra). And honestly I haven't looked back. The 3 areas of differentiation that sold me and continue to sell me are: 1) Aluminum body 2) EcoBoost engines 3) In Vehicle Technology.
I had a 2010 Rock Warrior with the TRD exhaust and personally do not miss the "v8 sound" at all. The quite cabin of the F150 is really welcomed. On this topic It's all personal preference.
As far as the 5.7 compared to my 2.7EB? I would have a hard time going back to a NA engine. Incredibly and surprisingly that little EB tows my 12' enclosed snowmobile trailer much better than the Tundra with the 4.30 rearend ever did - That lowend torque just can't be beat IMO. Overall, better performance and significantly better mpg than my tundra.
Good luck in your decision. I would do multiple test drives and continue to seek feedback from others.
Thank you for the welcome to the forum.
It is interesting to hear that the 2.7 L ECOBOST pulls your snowmobile trailer better than the tundra with the 5.7 v-8 and 4.30 rear end gears. what rear end gears does your f 150 have ? Yes I do agree with you on the sound difference, almost no sound vs. a v-8 rumble.
One thing I have been scratching my head about is how ford is getting their engines, either the 5.0 L OR THE ecobost with 3.55 rear end gears to pull more than the v-8 tundra with 4.30 rear end gears and 381hp/403 ft/lbs. torque. I know some of it is in the 700 lbs. weight difference. for example a 5.0 L v-8 ford with 3.73 gears will tow 10,700 lbs. max crew cab, where as the tundra with 4.30 gears in a crew max will tow 9000 lbs. I am confused.
04-28-2017, 11:58 AM
2017 f 150 platunum pricing 3.5 l EB
By my estimate, you're within $1500 of a GREAT deal on that trim package.
