2017 3.5 Ecoboost Tuner
01-14-2017, 11:28 AM
#11
Senior Member
O.P. I'm interested in the same thing, thanks for starting the thread.
ZX12 I wonder how many tuned, grenaded, and got warranty coverage but I guess we don't hear those stories...
ZX12 I wonder how many tuned, grenaded, and got warranty coverage but I guess we don't hear those stories...
01-14-2017, 11:57 AM
#12
FORD PERFORMANCE is due to release a warrantied PERFORMANCE CALIBRATION POWER PACK for the '17 Raptor 3.5
Car & Driver FEB '17 - stock Raptor
0-60 in 5.0 seconds flat
1/4 in 13.7 @ 100mph
Car & Driver FEB '17 - stock Raptor
0-60 in 5.0 seconds flat
1/4 in 13.7 @ 100mph
Last edited by C7Jake; 01-16-2017 at 07:59 PM.
01-14-2017, 12:27 PM
#13
if the tune could have caused the engine issue - you are out of luck.
plus - are you going to fight FMC for how many weeks without a vehicle to drive while your truck sits at the dealer? They'll have an engineer write up a report and then it's on you. Arbitration? Find your own engineer and get a report? Wait for weeks and weeks without a vehicle?
If you modify/ tune an engine - be prepared to pay for more repairs if the warranty is voided. The law folks refer to is designed so Ford can't void your powertrain warranty if you install an aftermarket radio etc.... = unrelated items, not causing the defect...
01-15-2017, 11:46 AM
#14
In most cases, running a tune wont cause engine damage that would void the warranty, but if you run a tune and abuse the engine, then yes the dealer and Ford will void it. It all depends on the dealer. If an o2 sensor fails, and causes a lean run, and sets a code, do you really thing they will blame the tune, or just replace the sensor? Situations like these would demand proof the tune cause the sensor to fail. Considering there are at least 4 O2 sensors, if one fails, most likely it was a defective part. If all 4 fail, Then it would look suspicious and they will investigate. If you grenade the engine while running a tune, well yeah, they will deny it, no doubt about that.
All I was pointing out is that for the most part running a mild tune wont cause engine damage as long as you dont abuse it. It all depends on what broke in the engine or transmission.
When in doubt talk to the service manager at your dealer and ask about tuners and tunes, you never know if the service manager might be a motorhead and has done it and seen it. A lot also depends on your relationship with the dealer.
EDIT:. I read through my 2014 warranty guide, and no mention of "tunes". However I just finished going through the guide for my new 2016 and they did add a small section, but it does not state they will void the warranty if a tune is used, but can deny a claim if the tune caused the damage.
All I was pointing out is that for the most part running a mild tune wont cause engine damage as long as you dont abuse it. It all depends on what broke in the engine or transmission.
When in doubt talk to the service manager at your dealer and ask about tuners and tunes, you never know if the service manager might be a motorhead and has done it and seen it. A lot also depends on your relationship with the dealer.
EDIT:. I read through my 2014 warranty guide, and no mention of "tunes". However I just finished going through the guide for my new 2016 and they did add a small section, but it does not state they will void the warranty if a tune is used, but can deny a claim if the tune caused the damage.
Damage Caused by Alteration or Modification The New Vehicle Limited Warranty does not cover any damage caused by:
• alterations or modifications of the vehicle, including the body, chassis, electronics or their components, after the vehicle leaves the control of Ford Motor Company
• tampering with the vehicle, tampering with the emissions systems or with the other parts that affect these systems (for example, but not limited to exhaust and intake systems)
• the installation or use of a non-Ford Motor Company part or software (other than a certified emissions part or software) or any part or software (Ford or non-Ford) designed for off-road use only installed after the vehicle leaves the control of Ford Motor Company, if the installed part fails or causes a Ford part to fail. Examples include, but are not limited to lift kits, oversized tires, roll bars, cellular phones, alarm systems, automatic starting systems and performance-enhancing powertrain components or software and performance “chips”. Your vehicle may allow, enable or facilitate the use of certain non-Ford Motor Company software. Ford is not responsible for the functionality of such software. Ford may disallow, discontinue or modify your ability to use such software at any time without prior notification or incurring any warranty or other obligation. Non-Ford Motor Company software may be governed by End User License Agreement or warranty provided by the software provider. For Ford Motor Company software see End User License Agreement found in the Owner Manual
• alterations or modifications of the vehicle, including the body, chassis, electronics or their components, after the vehicle leaves the control of Ford Motor Company
• tampering with the vehicle, tampering with the emissions systems or with the other parts that affect these systems (for example, but not limited to exhaust and intake systems)
• the installation or use of a non-Ford Motor Company part or software (other than a certified emissions part or software) or any part or software (Ford or non-Ford) designed for off-road use only installed after the vehicle leaves the control of Ford Motor Company, if the installed part fails or causes a Ford part to fail. Examples include, but are not limited to lift kits, oversized tires, roll bars, cellular phones, alarm systems, automatic starting systems and performance-enhancing powertrain components or software and performance “chips”. Your vehicle may allow, enable or facilitate the use of certain non-Ford Motor Company software. Ford is not responsible for the functionality of such software. Ford may disallow, discontinue or modify your ability to use such software at any time without prior notification or incurring any warranty or other obligation. Non-Ford Motor Company software may be governed by End User License Agreement or warranty provided by the software provider. For Ford Motor Company software see End User License Agreement found in the Owner Manual
Last edited by acdii; 01-15-2017 at 12:19 PM.
01-16-2017, 07:30 PM
#15
Senior Member
Dropped off my 2016 F-150 213" NA at the dealer, some b***h hit me head on and the dealer gave me a new 2017 F-150 3.5 Eco, 10 speed 3.55 open rear end as a driver. Why would you need a tuner? This thing is "Murder!" I'd lose my license in no time with this setup. lol.
01-17-2017, 03:52 AM
#16
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Marklite (01-17-2017)
01-17-2017, 08:07 AM
#17
Can we stop beating the dead horse tune warranty thing? There are obviously people on both sides of this on this forum and then you have the people that seem to feel the need to parrot the same thing in every thready they possibly can.
look we have heard it before....we know the risk we are taking...
Id also like to see proof that someone got their warranty work denied because of a tune, that wasn't a total dip**** about it, because up to this point all I have hear are internet people parroting ." a tune will void your warranty" with no proof.
look we have heard it before....we know the risk we are taking...
Id also like to see proof that someone got their warranty work denied because of a tune, that wasn't a total dip**** about it, because up to this point all I have hear are internet people parroting ." a tune will void your warranty" with no proof.
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idrive (01-18-2017)
01-17-2017, 08:35 AM
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01-17-2017, 09:29 AM
#20
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Can we stop beating the dead horse tune warranty thing? There are obviously people on both sides of this on this forum and then you have the people that seem to feel the need to parrot the same thing in every thready they possibly can.
look we have heard it before....we know the risk we are taking...
Id also like to see proof that someone got their warranty work denied because of a tune, that wasn't a total dip**** about it, because up to this point all I have hear are internet people parroting ." a tune will void your warranty" with no proof.
look we have heard it before....we know the risk we are taking...
Id also like to see proof that someone got their warranty work denied because of a tune, that wasn't a total dip**** about it, because up to this point all I have hear are internet people parroting ." a tune will void your warranty" with no proof.
