2016 remote start question
 

I just pulled the trigger on a 2016 xlt and it had everything I wanted except remote start. The dealer is going to install it before I purchase the truck but the one he is installing had a separate fob for the remote start. They said it's the one that will work 1000 feet. Is it possible to get a key that will work with that remote start system? As in remote start and truck key all in one. Thanks

I think the only trucks that come factory with remote starts are cars with keyless entry.

I have 2016 XLT with the OEM keyfob with remote start. It is possible for them to order it through the parts department. I think they make more money on the aftermarket remote starters and that's why they push those.

I don't think this is an aftermarket they are putting in its a ford product remote start, the bidirectional with the separate fob. I'm wondering if I can get a new Ford key with remote start function on it to work that remote start.

Sounds like this is what they are getting you, http://www.levittownfordsupercenter....al-p-3432.html

You can only use the OEM key with remote start FOB built in if it is factory ordered with remote start. Adding remote start after the fact via Ford parts will get you the kit with the separate FOB as described above.

The only option would be the Ford remote access. Then you can start it with your phone. Otherwise if it is after the truck is built you will have 2 remote fobs.

These guys apparently figured out how to retrofit the factory remote start, but they aren't sharing.


Price is very reasonable ($300 or $400 depending on remote), but the truck needs to be present at their facility in PA.

I've been looking for a way to get this retrofitted also.

If Ford remote no option on the 16, it is same as 15. Separate fob.

It's not an aftermarket system they'll put in. I had the same situation - truck had everything I wanted but remote start. Dealer added the Ford long range remote start. It's a separate small fob. They told me (and I'm not sure if this is true) that they install this one unless the truck has remote tailgate opening AND remote start. I don't mind at all because from what I have done this one has a MUCH longer range.

2-way > 1000' range > flashes green + chime :thumbsup:
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...65d9a7c98a.jpg

I have the one way - smaller fob, same range. It's the key that has the lower range from what I understand.

I'd be happy with the separate remote. I have a 15 with fob and the range is pretty dismal as was my 13. The truck is awesome, but the remote start range is low. At least it has 2-way and indicator lights so you know it didn't start. Congrats on the new truck.

OK Thanks. I have the plug and play 100 remote on my 2011 now and the range sucks. It's a little disappointing to have 2 remotes but I am going to like the extended range.

Thanks! It should be ready tomorrow, can't wait to drive it home.

Remote Starter
 

I just purchased a 2016 F-150 XLT and I'm going to buy an OEM remote starter with key from a Ford dealer on Ebay. This is a plug and play module with extra security feature and key $203. Once you install it (maybe 5 minutes tops) Go to your Ford dealer and have them re - flash the truck computer. Takes them maybe 10 minutes to do this and they will "cut" the key as well.

Do you have a link to what you purchased? I am looking to do the same thing!

If you were to purchase. Uncut fob with the key for an xlt I can bet ford can program it

Don you know anyone who has done this? Fobs are not cheap

No but I see them online for around 100 for 2 replicas. I actually used them on my 11 when I lost a key dealer programmed it and worked fine. I would think it can be done I will be able to tell you for sure Tomm as dealer is going to try for me

The non-remote start FOB system operates on 315mhz. With factory remote start and FOB the system operates on 902MHZ. You can't simply enable remote start and expect it to work because it is a frequency mis-match.

Yea but if you buy a non programmed fob with the remote button on it it should be able do you think? I'm not arguing just wondering

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.f15...912777e238.jpg

At least the remote is really small

Wow that is small, thought about the phone app, but may just have to deal with 2 remotes

So here's what I found out, and it's very random!! Some new 150's have the remote programmed in the system and some simply don't. Service guy said all he had to do was buy the fobs on his xlt and was good, they have had done that had to be installed. They are hooking my truck up to an ids system I believe is what they called it to see.

i am having my 2016 xlt hooked up to the IDS today. i will post up the results

Yea I just bought 2 fobs on eBay hopefully this works!!

Any update?

No waiting for them to be delivered dealer seems confident

^^^
To be able to program and use long distance fobs you need the VSS and long range b-directional antenna.

If the truck doesn't have factory remote start already, yes you have to enable remote start with IDS but you need the other two items for it to all work.

I stopped at a local dealer today and they said buying a new combo key/remote start will not work. Anything added after factory installed even though it's a ford product has try have a separate fob. At least it's small and it works really far away. The range of this one is amazing.

Well I will report back this afternoon, I got new remotes and going to serif they work. Dealer seems confident so we see what happens. Truck goes in at 2

I just took delivery of my 16 XLT and was on the fence with adding remote start. Dealer says $299 to install so I was just wondering if this price is pretty much standard.

My dealer said they normally charge $400 to install it. I didn't pay for it. They threw it in because my last truck had it and they knew I wanted it.

Be sure to follow up with parts list and what work was performed.

Looking into going the OEM route or another direction by iDatalink, which just released support for '16 F150 and operates from the the OEM FOB: http://www.idatalink.com/vehicle-releases/

I think that is pretty good price. considering the cost of the kit, the labor to install it and then using IDS to activate it.

I had remote start added to my 15 Xlt. I ordered the kit from eBay and had dealer install. Had a couple issues with dealer so they installed it for free. But I had also ordered the bi directional remote and dealer tried to get it to work and they couldn't do it so I have the separate little fob. Dealer did say be careful with eBay fobs most won't work. Guessing they just want me to buy one through them.

Without a doubt if your 15-16 didn't come with it you have to go aftermarket. Buying the keys and programming won't work. Putting ford system installed next week for 400

And yes I got burnt with the eBay fobs, 180 out the window

Just to set the record straight, if your 2015 or 2016 F150 did not come with factory remote start and you want Ford OEM remote start for true plug and play (non cut and splice) with Ford North America wide dealer warranty this is what you need. You can go with long distance (1000') or Remote Access (via iPhone or Android) or a combination. For any configuration you require the Vehicle Security System (VSS) as the base.

Also you cannot add Remote Access or long distance to a base factory system, you need the VSS to upgrade.

1) VSS - Part No: FT4Z-19A361-A + Long Distance Antenna - Part No: DL3Z-15603-C + One Way Long Range Fob - Part No: DS7Z-15K601-F

2) VSS - Part No: FT4Z-19A361-A + Long Distance Antenna - Part No: DL3Z-15603-C + Bi-Directional Long Range Fob - Part No: DL3Z-15K601-A

3) VSS - Part No: FT4Z-19A361-A + Remote Access RMU - Part No: DL3Z-19A390-C

4) VSS - Part No: FT4Z-19A361-A + Long Distance Antenna - Part No: DL3Z-15603-C + One Way Long Range Fob - Part No: DS7Z-15K601-F + + Remote Access RMU - Part No: DL3Z-19A390-C

5) VSS - Part No: FT4Z-19A361-A + Long Distance Antenna - Part No: DL3Z-15603-C + Bi-Directional Long Range Fob - Part No: DL3Z-15K601-A + Remote Access RMU - Part No: DL3Z-19A390-C

If the vehicle doesn't have factory remote it has to be enabled with IDS, then you can add the modules.

Ford dealers are the only ones that can enable Remote Access as they do this through Ford's technical service intranet.

Hope that this helps.

Does this have climate control also and give the additional selections in the instrument cluster as in the video in Post 8?

If so, I'm in.

Yes, absolutely it does.

I have a 16 XLT, no alarm. Ordering the parts listed above is all that's needed for a complete system or is the VSS an additional item?

Thanks for the legwork!

This is true with most dealers when they speak about after market keys. The dealerships don't always give out the information freely or easily about how you can find the correct FCC-ID or frequency needed for the key to work. Local lock shops/Keymakers do not all have the correct info about every make/model/year/trim and the transponder frequency needed either.

I just wasted about 10 hours learning this info for a different(not F150) vehicle. Three separate key shops all failed, and when they called their tech support, they said it was a vehicle malfunction. Fortunately I bought my key blanks from Amazon, and returned them for full credit, found the correct ones with the appropriate FCC-ID and saved about $150 over dealer price (for my 10 hrs invested).

The VSS is required and a must, that's why I included it.

Since you don't have the factory system then this will give you an enhanced perimeter alarm. It has an adjustable sensitivity sensor and recognizes the difference between breakage and damage versus loud vibration or wind.

Another bonus of the VSS and if you decide to get Remote Access, if your truck has data coverage where it's parked and someone messes with it or it gets hit you'll get a text or email on your smart phone alerting you.

You can always add any of the other modules on top of each other at a later date if you want.

Sorry to hear it, thanks for letting us know. You might save someone else from getting burned.

Most ebay sellers are not in the business of trying to rip people off. If you have a problem with their product "not as described" ebay will demand they give you a full refund incl shipping. If they said it would fit your vehicle and it didn't then you just need to ask nicely to return it first and if they don't let you, then you can get ebay involved by starting a case.

You can best save someone else from getting burned if you follow up on the ebay return process unless it was your fault to begin with.

I don't think the eBay seller was at fault. Gymrat was told by a dealer that they could program a fob to work on his truck and they couldn't. The point is that if you add remote start after the fact you need to have a separate fob to start the truck.

Mine was oem ford remote start put in after I bought it. Ordered the switchblade key fob with remote start off eBay and it wouldn't work. I did get it programmed to start the truck like a normal key but none of the buttons would work. Lock/unlock etc. Dealer tried and failed as well. Returned to eBay seller with no issue with full refund.

Na the remotes were bad. Ford tested them and showed me on their scanner

Got mine from Amazon actually from "we got remotes" have a message to them for a refund but we see how that goes. Ford had to cut key first but wouldn't have mattered cause some buttons worked some didn't

Do you know if the separate bi directional fob will work? I just want to know if truck remote starts if I'm inside out of site of truck.

^ 2-way fobs work fantastic...1000' range ^

I have had to use Amazons A to Z refund process once when the seller wanted me to buy more of his product(odor removal) because he said 3 coats was not enough even though the instructions said 1 or 2 coats would work.

Can remote start/climate control be initiated with the factory FOB or does it require a separate FOB? I'm not interested in the alarm FOB or mini version, want all the options on the existing key.

If I get the iPhone options, that's a bonus.

Having trouble getting a list of what's actually needed so I can install and bring to the Ford dealer for programming. I'd like it to operate exactly as in the video on Post #8, with the instrument cluster options.

Thanks!

If I order an additional one-way remote start fob (DS7Z-15K601-F), is there a learn procedure to sync it with the truck? Thanks in advance.

Edit: Answer found. Hit unlock once, cycle ignition on-off six times, truck will beep three times, then hit button(s) on RS remotes.