nihilus

deceptive thread title... maybe add speculation to it and see how many bites you get.

5land

Agreed hardcore. I'm not sure that everyone realizes how big the performance difference will be even if there is no increase in power. I don't forsee the 5.0 or 3.5 eco getting significant increases if at all. I do not think Ford is worried about the 6.2 Chevy as it wont be a high volume unit. The Eco will still pull with it and get even better mileage than now!

Rumors floating around that the 2.7 eco will be in the 300 - 320 hp and 350 to 375 lbft at low rpm. I'm guessing on the lower end of these ranges.

GriffFX4

Yeah, like its always said, the best way to add performance is to reduce weight. 700lbs is a heck of a weight loss.

Wiscony

Who are they idiots that dream up these numbers. Yeah sure on paper they sound nice, but in practicality useless.

papa tiger

I suppose regenerative braking and super capacitor electric steering motors are next in the MPG equation.

scross86

Judging where the other ecoboosts have been for hp and torque per liter i'd say the new 2.7L should be 310hp and 350ft*lbs. That will place it just up from the new base 3.5L N.A. and just under the 5.0. Maybe it was to appeal to people that liked the idea of the ecoboost but didn't want to fork over that $$$. I am crossing my fingers for the direct injection castings to get used on the 5.0, I understand if they don't, but a guy can hope. Otherwise a few simple tricks for the 5.0 and maybe 10-15hp and 10ft*lbs there. The 3.5L ecoboost I could see maybe just a bit of a reflash, but if these tech service bulletins are adding up enough they may wait before add more power. Either way, shave 700lbs off of the weight and it will out torque to weight the competition all day long.


Just my thoughts on the new line up, not sure about the new base 3.5L though. For guessing sake I'll say 290hp and 275ft*lbs.

acadianbob

The peak numbers may be just under the 5.0 but I bet it will out-tow the 5.0 because its peak torque will occur at much lower rpm than the 5.0. The beauty of the Ecoboosts is the difference at low rpm/part throttle. Any engine can be made to perform at WOT and huge rpm. Everyday driveability and towing needs the power down low.

BigBlueOx

They are apparently reworking the turbos. I've heard something about carbon fiber?

SteveLord

The 6.2L had to go. The price premium for it is ridiculous. Might as well get a Raptor or F250.

LTC F

A bunch of politicians in DC. It isn't engineers. The bureaucrats make up a number for CAFE (corporate average fuel economy) and the automakers have to meet it. The problem is there are two ways to increase MPG. Make vehicles lighter so you get a death trap on wheels like a smart car, or smaller displacement. The problem is it gets expensive and complicated to get a lot of horsepower out of a smaller engine and still use 87 octane.