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Old 03-09-2017, 01:01 PM
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I would strive for a buyback/lemon law that thing.Even if all is well with truck from this point on,the truck has been so botched/molested it will never be the same again and you will never feel the same about the truck.These trucks cost way too much money to not be happy with them.With the price of these trucks,they should j*rk you off AND clean you up.
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Sweet mother of God, what a disaster! I've never heard of such! How many miles on your truck as of now?
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Due to the weather we missed our appointment to drop the truck off at a the new dealer. We're rescheduling that. Current mileage is 33,xxx.
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That is insane man, I'm sorry for all those troubles. At least it isn't your DD and have the luxury of backup vehicles.
I only know your pain at a fraction of what you've experienced. My 2.7 had an issue for a few days where it wouldn't start when below 0 degF. No one could figure it out before it just started working again. Was in the shop for almost 2 weeks. Now I have to wait until next winter to see if it happens again. Frustrating.
Also, my doors rattle, the dealer has tried tightening up the doors a few times, but ultimately it always comes back.

Luckily, I haven't seen any signs of an oil leak after 7k miles... crossing my fingers on that one. I really like this engine and I want it to do well!!
Good luck man, hopefully they can fix it and it will work flawlessly. At least until the gen2 comes out in 2018.

I'm planning on trading mine in for a 2019 on a year end clearance in 2020.
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That is insane man, I'm sorry for all those troubles. At least it isn't your DD and have the luxury of backup vehicles.
I only know your pain at a fraction of what you've experienced. My 2.7 had an issue for a few days where it wouldn't start when below 0 degF. No one could figure it out before it just started working again. Was in the shop for almost 2 weeks. Now I have to wait until next winter to see if it happens again. Frustrating.
Also, my doors rattle, the dealer has tried tightening up the doors a few times, but ultimately it always comes back.

Luckily, I haven't seen any signs of an oil leak after 7k miles... crossing my fingers on that one. I really like this engine and I want it to do well!!
Good luck man, hopefully they can fix it and it will work flawlessly. At least until the gen2 comes out in 2018.

I'm planning on trading mine in for a 2019 on a year end clearance in 2020.
Did your starter engage but did not crank the engine? If so, a frozen starter is possibly the culprit. This can happen If water enters the starter at any point of the year without being complete evaporated. When engine is warm and running the moisture is changed to a vapor. In cold temperatures, the long battery B+ cable acts like a cold sink and the inside relay terminal will collect the moisture. In colder climates, this collected moisture will freeze. This is only isolated to certain starter motor manufactures and for F150, only the 2.7L.
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Originally Posted by stormsearch
Did your starter engage but did not crank the engine? If so, a frozen starter is possibly the culprit. This can happen If water enters the starter at any point of the year without being complete evaporated. When engine is warm and running the moisture is changed to a vapor. In cold temperatures, the long battery B+ cable acts like a cold sink and the inside relay terminal will collect the moisture. In colder climates, this collected moisture will freeze. This is only isolated to certain starter motor manufactures and for F150, only the 2.7L.
Well, the funny thing is the dealer called ford tech support and they said the first thing that should be tried was replacing the starter. Dealer service writer and senior tech said there was no way it was the starter so they didn't do it.

The only reason I didn't argue very heavily with their decision not to replace the starter was because there was no noise whatsoever when trying to start. There was no click, nothing. Not even a starter solenoid or relay click. Like the computer wasn't even telling it to start. After attempting to start the truck a couple dozen times, it would just suddenly start as if absolutely nothing was wrong. Battery was load tested and all cable crimps and connections were checked (per them).

If it does happen again next winter, I'm just going to have them replace the starter anyway.

But now that you say that, I wonder if it really is the low amperage relay or starter solenoid freezing up, then when you turn the key, the coil windings slowly warm up the relay and finally lets loose... hmmmm

Also, do you have any documentation on this issue I can show the dealer?

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Well, we dropped off at the new dealer on monday and got a call yesterday saying "You should probably come down and have a look, bring a camera" After going down to the dealer, I was informed that not only was the oil pan leaking (already knew that) the timing cover was also leaking AND ready for this? The TRANSMISSION is leaking! The timing cover is cracked from improper installation and has a broken bolt that was supposed to hold the trans lines. The trans housing has a bolt that was either stripped or over tightened causing the trans lines to not stay engaged and now are seeping fluid. The dealer stated they repaired the oil pan leak (new oil pan and silicone gasket) but could not do any other work as it is not "warranty" but poor workmanship from the previous dealer. I took a bunch of pictures and sent them off to our CSM at Ford. We heard back from them this morning. They stated that our new dealer, who we have a good relationship with, is able to do the repairs and fix all of the issues our previous dealer caused. It's billed under "workmanship". Thats where we stand for now.
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I also found out that we did not lose our CSM due to warranty change. Our previous CSM did in fact change positions. Which is one good thing to hear, I guess?
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I'm glad to hear you found a good dealer, given the opportunity I would bury the dealership that did the shotty repairs. Hopefully they get it all fixed up for you.
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Updates. After the new dealer went over the truck and documented all the issues, Ford corporate gave them the OK to repair everything. Here's the list. Timing cover and bolt set, oil pan and bolt set and a FULL transmission. The trans apparently cost less to put a new unit in rather than swap parts to a new case. We got the truck back, I went over everything and it looked good. Fast forward 4k miles and the timing cover or oil pan is leaking again. My higher-ups are furious! And how could you blame them? I've just kinda become numb to it. I put it up in the air, verify the leak again, and ship it on down to Ford. I just really don't know what else to do.
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