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2.7 Ecoboost - Best in class torque?

Old 05-09-2016, 07:48 AM
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Another Factor could be that the 2.7 is rated with Regular fuel. The engineer that headed up the project said it is higher with premium fuel, so if they are running the dyno tests with premium, it would make the 2.7 appear either underrated or much less driveline loss. I would like to see a comparison of a 2.7 on regular and then premium fuel to see the difference.
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Originally Posted by scott150
I found this interesting... Pickuptrucks.com did an in-depth comparison of all the half ton trucks.

The 2.7 puts out 340 ft/lbs @3250RPM!!! while GM's 6.2L V8 puts out 336 ft/lbs @ 4200RPM(manufacturer claimed 460 ft/lbs)


... the 2.7 is slightly behind the 3.5 EB, but it's making this torque at 900RPM lower.

This certainly helps validate why my 2.7 feels so much stronger than my previous 5.7 Tundra. Can you provide a link to the original article? I did a quick Google search but couldn't locate...Thanks.

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Originally Posted by SKBORDERS
Another Factor could be that the 2.7 is rated with Regular fuel. The engineer that headed up the project said it is higher with premium fuel, so if they are running the dyno tests with premium, it would make the 2.7 appear either underrated or much less driveline loss. I would like to see a comparison of a 2.7 on regular and then premium fuel to see the difference.
This still doesn't explain a 30% drive line loss for the 6.2 GM.
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Originally Posted by MNSportsman
This certainly helps validate why my 2.7 feels so much stronger than my previous 5.7 Tundra. Can you provide a link to the original article? I did a quick Google search but couldn't locate...Thanks.
Here are the links:
best variant for MPG - http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2016/02...dges-said.html
best variant for towing - http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2016/01...-showdown.html
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Originally Posted by scott150
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Originally Posted by scott150
True, I was just wondering about the close torque numbers of the 2.7 and 3.5 EB.
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So the GMC weighed 500lbs more, had less tq but was 1/2 a second quicker in the 1/4 mile and 0-60 than the Ecoboost? Loaded or unloaded!
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Originally Posted by Gene Hunt
So the GMC weighed 500lbs more, had less tq but was 1/2 a second quicker in the 1/4 mile and 0-60 than the Ecoboost? Loaded or unloaded!
The GMC still has the most HP which will make up for slightly less torque... Why do you think Ram's rated 420ft/lb EcoDiesel did so poorly in the 0-60 & 1/4 mile?

Here is the video of the acceleration test. You can see the F150 driver was pretty soft on the launch.

Car and driver tested the 3.5 EB and got 5.6 sec 0-60. --> http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...e-specs-page-6

GM's super rare 6.2 really should be doing a lot better considering the manufacturers claimed 420hp & 460ft/lbs.

Anyways... the 2.7 EB might not be the fastest, but like the thread title says, I think it's the best for torque.
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I'd bet that the low 6.2 torque has something to do with torque management. Gm's torque management is the worst. They used to literally have a 10 second timer that wouldn't give you power enrichment at wot until the timer was up. Edmunds found this to be the case in 2007:



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Originally Posted by scott150
The GMC still has the most HP which will make up for slightly less torque... Why do you think Ram's rated 420ft/lb EcoDiesel did so poorly in the 0-60 & 1/4 mile?

Here is the video of the acceleration test. You can see the F150 driver was pretty soft on the launch.
2016 Texas Truck Showdown: Acceleration Unloaded - YouTube

Car and driver tested the 3.5 EB and got 5.6 sec 0-60. --> http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...e-specs-page-6

GM's super rare 6.2 really should be doing a lot better considering the manufacturers claimed 420hp & 460ft/lbs.

Anyways... the 2.7 EB might not be the fastest, but like the thread title says, I think it's the best for torque.
The EcoDiesel also makes a heck of a lot less hp. Truly Apples and Oranges.

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