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Old 07-31-2014, 10:30 PM
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Default 2.7 EB Worthless Option? Engine Choices I Don't Get It!

Hello all,

This is my first post to this wonderful place I found. After months of saving I'm ready to buy a new vehicle in 10 years. I want the newest techy truck and with all the features I like and am interested in the 2015 F-150. I'm sop hyped for this truck!

But after printing and reading the options/styles I could get over and over and gushing until they put the damn WEBSITE BUILDER up like they did the Mustang 2015 all I can do is ponder why.

My big gripe after looking at the packages is how the super NEW super MPG efficient (will be) 2.7 EB engine is NOT AN OPTION on a Lariet LUX or higher, why not?

I want a Lariet Lux or higher and I can't get the new Engine which defeats the whole purpose of fuel saving to me. The only engine are the carryover 3.5 EB and 5.0 which AFAIK are the same. No start stop, no new engineering nothing to help with power or MPG (besides the truck being 700lbs less) that is what is extremely disappointing to me.

Anyone help me see the light on how they pump up hype on the 2.7 EB then not have the option to get it over Lariet Lux models?

ugh!
Old 07-31-2014, 11:11 PM
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Most people that can afford the Lariat Luxury/King Ranch/Platinum are the least concerned with fuel economy. They want the biggest and most powerful engines available.
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I think most people are confused about the 2.7tt. It is not some "magical engine" that will get 5 mpg better as any other engine given the same truck weight. The weight saving across the board are what will save gas. That being said, even with the new weight savings, 4x4 loaded screws and 157" WB may still be to much to keep the 2.7tt from being in constant boost, just the same as the 3.5tt sucked gas in those configutaions with the last gen. If mpg is the concern, get a 5.0 with the tallest gears.
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Originally Posted by nihilus
I think most people are confused about the 2.7tt. It is not some "magical engine" that will get 5 mpg better as any other engine given the same truck weight. The weight saving across the board are what will save gas. That being said, even with the new weight savings, 4x4 loaded screws and 157" WB may still be to much to keep the 2.7tt from being in constant boost, just the same as the 3.5tt sucked gas in those configutaions with the last gen. If mpg is the concern, get a 5.0 with the tallest gears.
I Agree, i have a 2014 limited and i get 15 city/hwy 80%/20% 18ish if it were more highway. I dont think the ecoboost is a gas savior at all. It's jut another option for an engine. i did want a 2015 platinum with a 6.2L but ford completely removed that engine out of it's lineup. Lets see how i like the drive and feel of the 2015, might trade it in. Otherwise i'll hang on to the 14 for another year or so until they release a Limited.
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I do believe if you get a standard cab with a 2.7L and 3.15, 4X2 gears you can reach amazing mileage.
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Originally Posted by DR9
I want a Lariet Lux or higher and I can't get the new Engine which defeats the whole purpose of fuel saving to me. The only engine are the carryover 3.5 EB and 5.0 which AFAIK are the same. No start stop, no new engineering nothing to help with power or MPG (besides the truck being 700lbs less) that is what is extremely disappointing to me.
The loaded crewcabs are too much truck for the base engine or the 2.7.

The 5.0 is improved and will have better fuel econ and likely more power, but they haven't released all of the details yet.

From the Ford press release:
"The available 5.0-liter V8 returns with improved cylinder breathing and new mid-lock variable cam timing to improve fuel economy while maintaining its tow-friendly torque."

The 3.5 EB will also be improved, but they haven't talk about it yet.

From the original press release:
Ford F-150 trucks equipped with EcoBoost engines also will benefit from standard Active Grille Shutters. Active Grille Shutters stay open when extra engine cooling is needed, such as during low-speed stop-and-go driving or while working in hot weather. They automatically close to reduce aerodynamic drag at cruising speed.

https://media.ford.com/content/fordm...ze-trucks.html
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Thanks for the info glad its not a full carryover as is then! I wish they would release more engine info and MPG soon.
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Originally Posted by nihilus
I think most people are confused about the 2.7tt. It is not some "magical engine" that will get 5 mpg better as any other engine given the same truck weight. The weight saving across the board are what will save gas. That being said, even with the new weight savings, 4x4 loaded screws and 157" WB may still be to much to keep the 2.7tt from being in constant boost, just the same as the 3.5tt sucked gas in those configutaions with the last gen. If mpg is the concern, get a 5.0 with the tallest gears.
I think people will be surprised with the new "magical" engine actually. The first ecoboost generation was to get truck buyers interested in a non V8 engine, showcasing lots of power to compete with the V8s. Since Ford accomplished that, now they built an engine with fuel economy as its primary goal for the average daily truck driver that doesn't tow.

Ya the weight savings will help across the board, however..

If we see 19 city/27 highway mpg on 4x4 crew cab it will be a slam-dunk for ford. Numbers just below or equal to ecodiesel 20/28 will make it a winner, if its much below the diesel all the nay-sayers will be correct.
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If we keep the truck unloaded and drive below 60 and above 40 we may see 24/25 mpg averages but asking for a lot of 275/300 HP peddle to the mettle will probably bring about a lot of 19/20 mpg averages I'm betting for most.


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3.5l and 700lbs less? Score-ski! My '13 Ecoboost is getting 17ish in town. 700lbs is a lot of weigh savings.


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