10spd.....gm the reason your having problems....
#21
Senior Member
Trust me you wouldn't say it's minor if it was your new $60,000 truck that shifts like crap. I'm a little over 2000 miles and shifting is horrible. I've had 2 separate passengers that have felt a big clunk on downshift and both said "what was that!" with concern in their voices. Dealer is saying they can't do anything, but reset the transmission learn which has done nothing. I am so over this. If my wife hadn't fallen in love with the massaging seats I'd be riding smoothly in a Denali right now. This transmission was not ready for prime time and now I'm simply one of the guinea pigs clunking through every shift. I don't even have a 10 speed because shift between 9 and 10 is so bad I'm forced to lock 10 out. I just want a smooth shifting truck or my money back.
There is no widespread 10 speed issue.
#22
2021 F150 STX 4x4
GM builds overpriced crap, I will skip the 10 speed since they had something to do with it. I left GM for a reason, I damn sure don't want to come to Ford to buy GM designed junk.
#23
Senior Member
"This new 10-speed rear-drive transmission is the result of collaboration between Ford and General Motors, although Ford had the engineering lead on it."
GM is taking the engineering lead on the FWD version of a 9 speed.
"The companies also are jointly developing a nine-speed transverse automatic for front-drive cars and crossovers; GM is leading the engineering on that effort."
The collaboration part is that Ford and GM split development costs and Ford shared the design to help with the FWD development.
All of this is also why the OP on this thread is nonsense.
#24
Senior Member
The ZL1 Camaro is the only GM its in right now. It is going to 8 others by 2018. All of them are Rear wheel drive also. I know the supercharged ZL1 has more HP and Torque than the Ford application. Looks like the other GMs it will be going in are the Yukon, Suburban, Tahoe, Sierra and Silverado. They are speculating on some Cadillacs also. GM did there software and Ford did their software for this transmission.
Ford and GM are working a joint venture on a new 9 speed. That is the one for use in front wheel drive vehicles.
Ford and GM are working a joint venture on a new 9 speed. That is the one for use in front wheel drive vehicles.
#25
Yes my new truck is currently in the shop for second time because it shut off at a stop light and threw codes. While I doubt they are related it would be fantastic if they were and my transmission issues got fixed at same time.
I really like everything else about the truck and just want it to operate correctly wether it be fixed or replaced but so far Ford says they can't do anything. I shouldn't have to be crossing my fingers with a brand new truck.
#26
Senior Member
I don't disagree that it may not be widespread. But there seem to be enough people driving around in sport mode so the truck doesn't lug in the wrong gear. And others that have a truck that lugs and clunks like mine. If it is a limited number then Ford should certainly be willing to swap out the bad ones for ones that operate as intended. Or if becomes apparent it's more that an isolated problem then they should come out with a fix. Ford has done neither at least not through my dealership.
Yes my new truck is currently in the shop for second time because it shut off at a stop light and threw codes. While I doubt they are related it would be fantastic if they were and my transmission issues got fixed at same time.
I really like everything else about the truck and just want it to operate correctly wether it be fixed or replaced but so far Ford says they can't do anything. I shouldn't have to be crossing my fingers with a brand new truck.
Yes my new truck is currently in the shop for second time because it shut off at a stop light and threw codes. While I doubt they are related it would be fantastic if they were and my transmission issues got fixed at same time.
I really like everything else about the truck and just want it to operate correctly wether it be fixed or replaced but so far Ford says they can't do anything. I shouldn't have to be crossing my fingers with a brand new truck.
We may be into the 2018s before we really learn any major truths on problems with the 2017 10 speeds on a large scale.
I hate that you are dealing with issues like this, especially being without your new truck. My intention was in no way to diminish the problems that people are having, just to push back on the idea that this is some poorly designed GM transmission that is universally a bad design. I haven't seen enough evidence of that, but if that evidence comes, then so be it. I have nothing to gain from defending a bad transmission.
I hope your stuff gets worked out soon and it's the last time you have to spend any days without your truck!
#27
My 10 speed clunks occasionally on downshift and it is annoying. I hope with more miles it does better. Drives better when I am towing. Overall I really like it except for the occasional clunk. Sport mode or towing seems to alleviate the problem.
#28
so now I just need to sit back and hope that Ford will do the right thing.
Last edited by fiveplusfive; 03-13-2017 at 12:25 PM.
#29
I've put 220 hard miles on my brand new lariat with 10 speed since taking delivery last Wednesday, and I have to say this is the best slushbox I've ever driven. I've driven manuals as daily drivers and track day toys for the better part of 10 years and I absolutely hate the lag inherent in automatics.
This transmission shifts intelligently under all conditions. Shifts hard when you want it (especially in sport mode where I've been flooring it regularly), and keeps the ride smooth for those times you have sensitive passengers or fragile cargo. Great all around transmission, and short of a dual clutch tranny, probably as good as it's going to get without a foot clutch pedal.
This transmission shifts intelligently under all conditions. Shifts hard when you want it (especially in sport mode where I've been flooring it regularly), and keeps the ride smooth for those times you have sensitive passengers or fragile cargo. Great all around transmission, and short of a dual clutch tranny, probably as good as it's going to get without a foot clutch pedal.
#30
Trust me you wouldn't say it's minor if it was your new $60,000 truck that shifts like crap. I'm a little over 2000 miles and shifting is horrible. I've had 2 separate passengers that have felt a big clunk on downshift and both said "what was that!" with concern in their voices. Dealer is saying they can't do anything, but reset the transmission learn which has done nothing. I am so over this. If my wife hadn't fallen in love with the massaging seats I'd be riding smoothly in a Denali right now. This transmission was not ready for prime time and now I'm simply one of the guinea pigs clunking through every shift. I don't even have a 10 speed because shift between 9 and 10 is so bad I'm forced to lock 10 out. I just want a smooth shifting truck or my money back.
Most. I said most.
I'm hoping that your problems are something related to the "shutting off" problems you describe and it has nothing to do with the trans.