100,000 mile service done
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More like 30K in a tuned EB for plugs, at least that has been my experience. Since they use a sharp point center electrode, they tend to get a pit in the ground strap which increases the gap further than the gap gauge can check. Thats why they tend to be gapped at .028 when tuning.
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say what you want about the color of the trans fluid - but it will indeed live 100K miles with ease. I wouldn't want to exceed that and I would recommend doing either a pan drop, filter drap service, or a trans flush service at or around the first 50K interval just to get the initial particles out of the way. I'm about to do that on my exploder which crossed 60K miles.
After that 100K is easy peasy. Reason it gets dark so fast is supposedly because of the carbon black component that is in the makeup of the CF clutch disks inside the new trans (the zf 6sp or the 10R80) and it's not so much that the clutch plate is broken down that much but just rather the fact that carbon black is literally a dye component. It can't be helped supposedly.
Or that's how it was explained to me and it makes a bit of sense. Older autos didn't have CF clutch plates the new ones do. It's also part of the reason for the new transmission fluid formula and the heat ranges.
And the bit about the plugs is indeed true I bet if you look at them again you'll see pits in the electrode. it's cheap insurance to trade them out anyway. And to be fair I'm not really a fan of the iridium plugs anyway - so I don't buy then upon replacement. Or I haven't yet.
After that 100K is easy peasy. Reason it gets dark so fast is supposedly because of the carbon black component that is in the makeup of the CF clutch disks inside the new trans (the zf 6sp or the 10R80) and it's not so much that the clutch plate is broken down that much but just rather the fact that carbon black is literally a dye component. It can't be helped supposedly.
Or that's how it was explained to me and it makes a bit of sense. Older autos didn't have CF clutch plates the new ones do. It's also part of the reason for the new transmission fluid formula and the heat ranges.
And the bit about the plugs is indeed true I bet if you look at them again you'll see pits in the electrode. it's cheap insurance to trade them out anyway. And to be fair I'm not really a fan of the iridium plugs anyway - so I don't buy then upon replacement. Or I haven't yet.
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I will shorten up the trans service due to snowplowing over the winter. I am just a little harder on it than most.
I was already at 110,000 on the plugs and it runs exactly the same before and after the plug change, I think I could have gone to 200,000. To change the plugs on the 3.5na, you have to remove the intake to access the passenger side plugs. Kind of a pain.
I had Ford do the service anyway so used Ford coolant.
Royal purple in the gear cases, Ford fluid in trans and transfer case. The front diff got used a lot this last winter under load plowing.
I always have the brake fluid flushed when any brake work is done. Did all pads and rotors at 80,000 miles. I wait until pads wear completely out since I never reuse rotors ever. Just wait for the noise. I have the next set waiting in the garage all 4 rotors and pads anyway.
Even if the water pump and alternator make it to 200,000, I will replace both then as a precaution along with all hoses, front wheel bearings and IWE units..
I replace air filters and cabin air filters at 10,000 mile on the 10,000 mile marks. Oil changed at 5000 mile marks. Parts are cheap enough.
Also changed out headlight bulbs and tail light bulbs just so I know they are good again, again cheap insurance. Wiper blades on the 1st day of even months.
My hour meter is at 3800 hours.
No fuel filter to change and no power steering to service, no grease fittings, no plug wires, just blow out fuzz in the radiator and condenser, load test the battery and done.
My 2006 F-150 I still have at 325,000 miles.
These are my plans unless I get the itch for a F-350 6.2 with 4.30 gears and start all over.
I was already at 110,000 on the plugs and it runs exactly the same before and after the plug change, I think I could have gone to 200,000. To change the plugs on the 3.5na, you have to remove the intake to access the passenger side plugs. Kind of a pain.
I had Ford do the service anyway so used Ford coolant.
Royal purple in the gear cases, Ford fluid in trans and transfer case. The front diff got used a lot this last winter under load plowing.
I always have the brake fluid flushed when any brake work is done. Did all pads and rotors at 80,000 miles. I wait until pads wear completely out since I never reuse rotors ever. Just wait for the noise. I have the next set waiting in the garage all 4 rotors and pads anyway.
Even if the water pump and alternator make it to 200,000, I will replace both then as a precaution along with all hoses, front wheel bearings and IWE units..
I replace air filters and cabin air filters at 10,000 mile on the 10,000 mile marks. Oil changed at 5000 mile marks. Parts are cheap enough.
Also changed out headlight bulbs and tail light bulbs just so I know they are good again, again cheap insurance. Wiper blades on the 1st day of even months.
My hour meter is at 3800 hours.
No fuel filter to change and no power steering to service, no grease fittings, no plug wires, just blow out fuzz in the radiator and condenser, load test the battery and done.
My 2006 F-150 I still have at 325,000 miles.
These are my plans unless I get the itch for a F-350 6.2 with 4.30 gears and start all over.
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What truck (year / engine / tranny) are we talking about?
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I have 15 vehicles to keep track of with maintenance, 6 family vehicles and 9 work box trucks. I have to have some type of system to keep track of everything so I have little to no down time. I have trucks in my fleet right now, E-350 5.4 gas trucks, one has 510,000 on it and one I just put an engine in at 380,000 when it dropped a valve seat and chewed a piston top but I think I got my money's worth out of the original engine. They all run everyday covering 5 states. I am pretty picky about maintenance since my oldest trucks go back to 2001. The 9 work trucks cover usually 30,000 miles a month between all of them as a total. I find some parts become obsolete from Ford on some things. I never let any of them slip into disrepair. Even the AC works in all of them and none burn any oil or leak anything. Fixed a lot of cab rust over the years, my new 2017 F-450 box truck should eliminate that now since it is aluminum like my F-150.
The F-150 I have is 2015 3.5na with 6 speed transmission 3.73 gears crew cab short bed. My dealer gave me a 2018 F-150 to drive for the day while my service was getting performed -- 5.0 10speed with 3.73 and I kind of saw what I was missing in the power department. Mine handled better with Fox shocks, add a leaf and sway bar with BFG tires. The new one was a bit squirley like mine used to be.
These trucks are pretty low maintenance if you run intervals out like the manual says to do. I will let others do that. I tend to keep my vehicles far beyond the designed life expectancy so by doing the extra maintenance it may keep me from buying twice as many trucks over the same time period. Yes I do replace wipers that often. But they don't get thrown out right away, they go on my fleet of trucks for a few more months when I take them off of mine.
The F-150 I have is 2015 3.5na with 6 speed transmission 3.73 gears crew cab short bed. My dealer gave me a 2018 F-150 to drive for the day while my service was getting performed -- 5.0 10speed with 3.73 and I kind of saw what I was missing in the power department. Mine handled better with Fox shocks, add a leaf and sway bar with BFG tires. The new one was a bit squirley like mine used to be.
These trucks are pretty low maintenance if you run intervals out like the manual says to do. I will let others do that. I tend to keep my vehicles far beyond the designed life expectancy so by doing the extra maintenance it may keep me from buying twice as many trucks over the same time period. Yes I do replace wipers that often. But they don't get thrown out right away, they go on my fleet of trucks for a few more months when I take them off of mine.
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