lddrew

really?? dmax or PSD?? that is fantastic. the 11+ trucks are getting almost the same mileage as the 01-04 trucks did. Amazing how these guys worked around all the emissions stuff to make them both efficient, and environmentally friendly. The DEF is really not as big a deal as people make it out to be as well

Commander316

i would like to see Ford redesign the Ranger into a 2.0-3.0 Turbo Diesel first, to see if there's a market for a smaller truck...

ak_cowboy

ummm...not really. most get low teens stock. Do a little reading on what people have done to get 20+mpg (hint, DPF delete)

lddrew

13-15 city stock
18-22 highway
i'd say that's pretty good. and i've done my reading

http://www.duramaxforum.com/forum/20...l-mileage.html

http://www.duramaxforum.com/forum/20...l-mileage.html

http://www.duramaxforum.com/forum/20...x-mileage.html

ak_cowboy

^ thats from one motor...look up what cummins and powerstroke are getting

zap

The main issue is not many people have yet driven the new emissions vehicles far enough to actually get the motors broken in yet to get a true mileage count off of them. Most engines don't hit peak efficiency until 2500 hrs. (which is like 104 days of continuous running).

lddrew

With all due respect I wouldn't be in the market for a new PSD or Cummins, especially not the cummins. the 6.7 PSD would be my second choice. but i'd be in a dmax, and the numbers are impressive at least to me

cowboy

idk I'd rather pick a company that been around a lot longer making diesels so Cummins it would be for me.

lddrew

is ten extremely successful years on the 6.6 not enough??

in the 90's cummins was king. once the 53 block crap started things went downhill. the early common rails had issues. all of the trans have issues in auto form. and the new 6.7 with all the emissions crap has had trouble just like the other two. and the I6 can't compete with the V8's power wise.

I know many a cummins man and i do respect their stuff, but they aren't covered in gold leaf like a lot of people think. they blow heads and have injectors **** the bed just like other trucks.

that being said the '12 cummins have some of the nicest interiors i've seen, dodge has really turned it around.

cowboy

nope When you have Cummin's making diesel engine since 1929 for all kinds of applications.

All engines have their points of failure. I think ford made the wrong move when they went to the powerstroke from the international engines. And if CAT made a diesel engine small enough to put into a truck I would pick them too.