E85 gas
07-14-2010, 06:56 PM
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E85 burns cooler than regular gasoline
07-16-2010, 10:18 AM
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Obey your Masters:
The folks in Massachusetts seem to believe that government knows best, so the mandatory E85 rule along with a myriad of others is not surprising despite the complete lack of logic in the implementation of any of them.I was born and schooled in Massachusetts, a proper Bostonian, and fortunate enough to have escaped "the cradle of the republic" back in 1958.... and I have never looked back.
08-06-2010, 07:17 PM
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I'm thinking about running it in my Big Truck.
The added insurance in the higher octane for less detination is worth it to me when ever I turn the timing up.
I know a few people that have put it in the stock systems with no sign of wear, they did have to tune for it though.
The added insurance in the higher octane for less detination is worth it to me when ever I turn the timing up.
I know a few people that have put it in the stock systems with no sign of wear, they did have to tune for it though.
09-06-2010, 03:15 AM
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Katt - you might want to look at what varieties of corn are used to produce ethanol vs. what corn varieties are eaten as is. The corn used mostly for high fructose corn syrup (nothing healthy about it, it's worse than pure sugar for you) and ethanol is very high in natural sugars and is very unpalatable for people. The majority of corn grown in the US is of this kind. The stuff you actually buy in the stores is a completely different variety of corn and it only represents about 10-15% of what is grown nationally.
09-06-2010, 05:27 AM
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Katt - you might want to look at what varieties of corn are used to produce ethanol vs. what corn varieties are eaten as is. The corn used mostly for high fructose corn syrup (nothing healthy about it, it's worse than pure sugar for you) and ethanol is very high in natural sugars and is very unpalatable for people. The majority of corn grown in the US is of this kind. The stuff you actually buy in the stores is a completely different variety of corn and it only represents about 10-15% of what is grown nationally.
As far as HFCS being unhealthy, anything in excess is unhealthy. I have seen very little in the manner of actual scientific studies (not sponsored by CSPI or the ilk) which makes a legitimate claim to the dangers of HFCS.
09-06-2010, 06:04 AM
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haha i had a 87 cutlass cierra 2.5 4 cyc..... ran e85 all the time... everyone said i couldnt... but i drove it for a year like that never had any problems... took my gas milage from 33 to 30.. smelt like worm****.... idled like it has a small cam.. after about 4 months... i had to take the muffler off (i dont know if the e85 caused that or not) but i had 2 vehicals and that was when e85 had first came out and my auto teacher said i couldnt run it ... it did fine.. i wouldnt ever run it in something i planned on keeping... the car on regular gas had like 50 hp... and on e85 had like 17 ..lmao
09-06-2010, 07:03 AM
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gone postal - The ethanol and the HFCS corn varieties are the same. The land wouldn't be used for any other type of corn, the other stuff isn't subsidized like the high in sugar stuff is. It hasn't raised the price of corn for food, because supply already meets demand. Farmers won't sell corn for a loss for too many years in a row. If they had to because supply outstripped demand, they would stop planting corn. Shoot, there was a farmer that let his fields go to waste right around the corner from where I live because he was going to loose money on it. The plants just got turned back in to the soil when it came time to plant the winter wheat. The market is already very low for corn other than hfcs and ethanol. And if they don't plan subsidized corn... then they'll plan soybeans, which is also subsidized.
"This has rasied the price of corn used for food by creating an articial demand for corn for ethanol." Not nearly as much as you think. The corn may be used for a different product, but it would be the exact same stuff grown due to government subsidizes that existed way before the ethanol requirement. If it weren't for the subsidizes, farmers would lose money, and therefore quit planting that crop. If they quit planting that crop, then supply goes down, and prices go up. Take a look at everything hfcs is in... every one of those items would go up in cost.
"This has rasied the price of corn used for food by creating an articial demand for corn for ethanol." Not nearly as much as you think. The corn may be used for a different product, but it would be the exact same stuff grown due to government subsidizes that existed way before the ethanol requirement. If it weren't for the subsidizes, farmers would lose money, and therefore quit planting that crop. If they quit planting that crop, then supply goes down, and prices go up. Take a look at everything hfcs is in... every one of those items would go up in cost.