E85 gas
02-25-2012, 05:43 PM
#101
I Voted For Bill and Opus
Here are the figures on ethanol vis gasoline.
The energy of ethanol relative to gasoline
A. 76,000 = BTU of energy in a gallon of ethanol
B. 116,090 = BTU of energy in a gallon of gasoline
C. .655 = 2/3 = GGE of energy in a gallon of ethanol. A/B.(GGE =energy in a gal. of gas)
D. 1.53 = Gallons of ethanol is equal to 1 gallon of gasoline.
The basic story on ethanol mileage and cost
Some Ethanol proponents claim it doesn't hurt their mileage, but this goes against physics, and you will not find the ethanol lobby making such fraudulent claims--they could be sued. But just to be sure, zFacts analyzed all of EPA's ethanol mileage tests for one year and, big surprise, ethanol gave exactly 2/3 the mileage of gasoline.
http://zfacts.com/p/436.html
A diesel engine is much more efficient.
Volkwagen road tested diesel power Polo cars in the Rocky Mountain area. They tested both the 1.2 L TDI, turbocharged 3-cylinder engine, and the 1.6 L TDI, turbocharged 4-cylinder engine. I talked to several people who did the road testing and they where very pleased with both engines. The 3-cylinder could get as much as 75 mpg, while the 4-cylinder could easily top 65 mpg.
If I where getting an new F150 I would get a flex-fuel engine not because I would run E85 but that I could use any gasoline mix available at a filling station.
The energy of ethanol relative to gasoline
A. 76,000 = BTU of energy in a gallon of ethanol
B. 116,090 = BTU of energy in a gallon of gasoline
C. .655 = 2/3 = GGE of energy in a gallon of ethanol. A/B.(GGE =energy in a gal. of gas)
D. 1.53 = Gallons of ethanol is equal to 1 gallon of gasoline.
The basic story on ethanol mileage and cost
Some Ethanol proponents claim it doesn't hurt their mileage, but this goes against physics, and you will not find the ethanol lobby making such fraudulent claims--they could be sued. But just to be sure, zFacts analyzed all of EPA's ethanol mileage tests for one year and, big surprise, ethanol gave exactly 2/3 the mileage of gasoline.
http://zfacts.com/p/436.html
A diesel engine is much more efficient.
Volkwagen road tested diesel power Polo cars in the Rocky Mountain area. They tested both the 1.2 L TDI, turbocharged 3-cylinder engine, and the 1.6 L TDI, turbocharged 4-cylinder engine. I talked to several people who did the road testing and they where very pleased with both engines. The 3-cylinder could get as much as 75 mpg, while the 4-cylinder could easily top 65 mpg.
If I where getting an new F150 I would get a flex-fuel engine not because I would run E85 but that I could use any gasoline mix available at a filling station.
Last edited by transmaster; 02-25-2012 at 05:47 PM.
02-25-2012, 05:52 PM
#102
Junior Member
I've seen the bottom of a storage tank every morning before running engine tests as well as what CNG does to an engine. We ran engines according to the customer's wishes with what fuel they wanted. We blended our own 10% mixture at Holley carb and I built a prototype carb to test it. Ford ordered a number of carbs plated to stave off corrosion. My carb had the liquid steel coming up in chunks in the fuel bowl after a few thousand miles. Me I have my engine tuned to run on it and it is just flat out cheap race gas. I like spending money on my truck to make it do what I want.
02-25-2012, 06:26 PM
#103
crush a little car today
You won't get back mileage lost to E85 but there are several ways to improve a little here and a little there. Keep the air in your tires up and even a few psi over to reduce rolling resistance. Since you won't be driving for any performance just keep the air filter element clean and also get some MAF cleaner to keep pollutants off of it. Changing ALL of your fluids except brake fluid, due to ABS, to full synthetic. I've seen nearly .5 mpg on my trans fluid change. Get a vacuum guage and drive to keep the highest value at all times. I've heard and seen windows/tailgate up or down for increased mileage and I don't see the difference. Don't run your A/C till you have to. You can add a bottle of water wetter to transfer heat to the radiator to run cooler as a hot running engine has more losses. Some people believe that a clean clear coat and waxed will give mileage increases. See you can't just put a magic bullet on and expect 5-10 mpg.
02-25-2012, 06:57 PM
#104
Junior Member
You won't get back mileage lost to E85 but there are several ways to improve a little here and a little there. Keep the air in your tires up and even a few psi over to reduce rolling resistance. Since you won't be driving for any performance just keep the air filter element clean and also get some MAF cleaner to keep pollutants off of it. Changing ALL of your fluids except brake fluid, due to ABS, to full synthetic. I've seen nearly .5 mpg on my trans fluid change. Get a vacuum guage and drive to keep the highest value at all times. I've heard and seen windows/tailgate up or down for increased mileage and I don't see the difference. Don't run your A/C till you have to. You can add a bottle of water wetter to transfer heat to the radiator to run cooler as a hot running engine has more losses. Some people believe that a clean clear coat and waxed will give mileage increases. See you can't just put a magic bullet on and expect 5-10 mpg.
02-25-2012, 07:05 PM
#105
crush a little car today
You can get a tuner also and get a mileage improvement.