rrp0968

If these active shutters are all that and improve fuel economy, why not put them on all F150's so they all benefit. Even if they improve 1 MPG, seems like that would be a positive for Ford. The argument that the EB is the leader in fuel economy is false. I cannot speak for the 2.7, but there is no difference in fuel economy between the 3.5 EB and the 5.0. I can say that from first hand experience. So.... Why would the 3.5 EB get them and not the 5.0? Just for clarification.... I would rather my truck not have them, just something else to go wrong with it. Unless they improve economy by 20-30%, I would rather the grill on my truck stay as is.

awddsm97

They most likely added these to the ecoboost to increase it's economy and marketing hype. Let's get real here. Ford wants to sell as many ecoboost a as they can. Mainly because even though real world numbers are what they are the window stickers are what the government bases their CAFE standards and that's all the manufacturers are concerned with.

I'm very familiar with what causes and how condensation occurs. Maybe you don't understand that all turbo cars experience condensation in the IC. In some area's I happens more than you would ever realize. Just to enlighten you further maybe it's not just the condensation. Maybe it's the condensation and oil vapor build up in the IC. Have you seem the other thread about what guys are draining from their IC? That sludge will not be easy for the motor to burn(unlike small amounts of water) and most definitely will cause a misfire.

It's a just a theory. I'm not denying anything. I own an ecoboost and if the problem arises I will deal with it. Most ford techs are bound by what the factory allows them to do and most don't have the practical experience with turbo engines.

I reminds me of when mitsubishi brought the Evolution 8 to the US. Most owners who had issues like missfires stayed far away from dealer.

tamnalan

As another poster already noted: If HID headlights improve safety, why not put them on all F150s so they all benefit?


If leather seats are more durable, why not put them on all F150s so they all benefit?


The ecoboost trucks are emerging as Ford's flagship technology vehicles. Hence they get more cool stuff.

primalurges

The difference between HIDs, Leather Seat, and the shutters is that the latter would help Ford lower their CAFE average which would same them millions in other emission control strategies where putting HIDs and Leather would not earn them any points with the federal government. F150s are 2.5 ton boxes that will obtain a negligible mpg gain from active shutters. The only reason the ecos are getting them is to reduce warranty claims resulting from condensation build up.

Willard5.0

I really wanted an EB, I love turbocharged engines. The intake sounds, the fat mid-range power band, all awesome. As I was purchasing pre-owned my options were limited and the truck that fit my bill came equipped with the 5.0. This is an excellent V8 engine, plenty of power with an amazing sound track. I am also getting over 20 mpg on the freeway, and averaging 19.4 with mixed driving. Not displeased with the 5.0 whatsoever.

XtraLargeTall

So when did you start working for Ford in the engineering department?

primalurges

Clearly you're a little slow. Let me help you understand, Ford just recently went through the considerable expense of building an aluminum body next generation F150 that will weigh 700 lbs less than the current model. This will allow them to put a smaller Eco boost engine in them with affecting the trucks performance. Now let's see did ford do this because F150s sales are suffering because of high fuel prices? No not really, still the F150 outsells every truck or car in NA. Are you still following along? They are doing this because they need to lower their fleet average MPG because their money maker is a pick up truck that by it's very dimensions and weight are inherently inefficient. My comment is mainly financial motive. You see slow one weight reduction and aerodynamics are both keys to fuel economy however the frontal profile of a truck can never compare to the front are of a compact. It doesn't take an engineering degree to figure this out just a little gray matter where it counts.

XtraLargeTall

Let's just compare your two comments here. In your first comment, you state "The only reason the ecos are getting them is to reduce warranty claims resulting from condensation build up." Then in the second comment you state "They are doing this because they need to lower their fleet average MPG...My comment is mainly financial motive." Now, I'd say those are two separate ideas you're throwing around there, but apparently I'm the slow one

tamnalan

Another problem with primalurges' argument is that Ford is putting active shutter grill technology on a number of models now. It's standard equipment on the Focus. Some have ecoboost motors and some do not.


http://www.ford.busseys.co.uk/Active...save_fuel.html


No Ford conspiracy here! The ecoboost trucks are their flagship F-150 technology showcases. Hence the active grills.

rrp0968

Hopefully they get the issues corrected with their "Flagship". Any truck that shuts down when power is needed, is far from a "Flagship" in my opinion.