Tm2006

Obviously a new motor would be appropriate. My concern is that it is a short block instead of a long block. Therefore, all of the internals of the long block they put in that knocked worse than my original motor will be used in the new short block. Those metal shavings had to come from somewhere and if there were no obvious score marks on the block I would assume that whatever failed was an internal component that will be used in the new short block. Sorry if I wasn't clear in the first post.

paczowski123

I see what you're saying, but from my understanding, they would replace the short block meaning a new block but reuse the heads and intake manifold and accessories. If they did a short block, everything in the bottom end would be replaced. Only the heads would be swapped over, which do not seem to be the cause of the issues, it is the cylinders or crank or wherever it comes from.

Tm2006

Alright that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up for me. My service advisor said they ordered the short block on Thursday so it should be done in a couple weeks. I figured they would still be back ordered at this point but we will see. It's been almost 5 months since I dropped it off.

I'm just ready to have my truck back. Gonna see what kind of deal I can get on a new one with the 2.7. No more coyote for me if I can help it.

Dutchmanxtr

FWIW, I went through the same issue with my 2012. This lasted 6+ months and went through 3 replacement long blocks. One was so bad, the dealer wouldn't even let the truck leave the lot, they just ordered another long block. Ford needs to find better shops to rebuilt their engines.
Not sure on your plan, to keep your truck or look at a new one? Either way, Ford offered to extend my ESP warranty or give me $$$ towards the purchase of a new unit. (2 fair options).

The one good thing was I got to drive various 2018's. Tried different engines and trim levels of F150. Used them to tow, haul, and everything I normally do with my truck. A 6 month test drive helps a lot when picking a new truck. So after the 2nd or 3rd crap remanufactured engine, I went right to the owner/GM. He basically said, order one or pick any truck on the lot and gave me a number that was too good. Add in the Ford money, and needless to say I now drive a 2018.


.

Tm2006

This is what I'm hoping for. What kind of deal are we talking if you don't mind putting it out there? And I can get z plan through my granny that might sweeten the deal further. I'm pretty much over this truck due to all the trouble it's been.

I'm not sure about them even being able to extend the warranty since it was covered just under the standard powertrain warranty. (Got it in on the very last day before it expired) I'm in a 2018 explorer now and it is verrrry nice with a $45k sticker price. I'm not sure I could afford more than a $25k loan just to keep my payments reasonable.

Dutchmanxtr

There's nothing wrong with getting a short block, as long as it's a good one. In all fairness, it's not the trucks fault, it's the stupid useless remanufactured engines. If my first go around ended with a good engine replacement, I would have been happy with that and still be driving my 2012.
The new engine does not come with any warranty. Even though this is covered under your std warranty, once the actual truck warranty runs out, your new engine is no longer covered. Meaning if you got the truck in on the last day, well the new engine is not going to be covered after you drive away. (except some misc things the dealer feels to adjust). Now if you actually bought the engine, it does come with warranty. For me I had lots of warranty left when I started the swap, but by the time I got the truck back, the time was getting down to 6 months. That's why they offered to extend it.

Tm2006

Interesting. When I picked the truck up after the first new motor was put in I was told the motor itself came with a 36 month unlimited mile warranty. Either way I'll see what the dealer is willing to do for me and worst case scenario I get my truck back with a good motor.

Dutchmanxtr

I am north of the border so maybe rules are different here. That's excellent if it comes with a 36 month warranty, make sure it says that on your paperwork. That's one reason to keep the truck if it's repaired properly.

Tm2006

Yeah that's funny you mention that. When I picked it up the first time they didn't have the paperwork done so they said they would just mail it to me. Not sure if it never got sent because I called them the next day saying the truck sounded like crap or if there was no paperwork. I'll be sure to get it when it's finished this next time.

paczowski123

I take my truck back today to go back in for what I am going to guess will be its second replacement engine. With the horrible noise when it starts and the bad knock combined, I am not sure how they would go about "repairing" it. I was also told by my adviser when I picked up my truck the first time that it should have a 3Y/36K warranty, however, when I called Ford they confirmed that is only if the repair is customer pay. Since mine was covered under my CPO warranty, it only follows what I have left on my CPO warranty, which is about a year or 13K miles.